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movie007 Since: Jan, 2001
#1: Sep 1st 2011 at 1:43:08 PM

It seems as if two tropes that are pretty much the same. Is anyone else confused by this?

LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
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#2: Sep 1st 2011 at 2:19:14 PM

I agree that that is confusing.

The Present Day has fewer wicks and inbounds, but I personally prefer its description so I think we should make The Present Day a redirect for Present Day, copy and paste any examples found on the former but not on the latter, and then edit Present Day's description so that it matches the one found on The Present Day page.

I am interested in what other people think about this though.

edited 1st Sep '11 2:19:32 PM by LouieW

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#4: Sep 2nd 2011 at 2:18:32 AM

Hmm, I basically agree with Louie's plan, but I think it should have a little more detail about what the present day is in the context of fiction before going off to explain all the things it isn't.

The joke about "this very minute" is funny and all, but present-day fiction doesn't necessarily occur in "this very minute". I think we're sacrificing clarity on the altar of wit here, when we could easily have both.

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#5: Sep 2nd 2011 at 2:48:36 AM

Addendum: actually, the more I think about it, the more confused I get. (Time travel can have that effect on people.) I see four cases, only one of which clearly is not present day.

1. Work written in 2011, set in 2011.
2. Work written in 1961, set in 1961.
3. Work written in 1961, set in 2011.
4. Work written in 2011, set in 1961.

Both of the first two were set in the present day when they were written. Is the second one not set in the present day any more? And if so, does that mean the third one has become present day? Part of me wants to answer yes, but I'm not sure that's actually the standard definition of "present day fiction", and I think there's a case to be made that both of the first two — and only the first two — count as present day.

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Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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#6: Sep 2nd 2011 at 3:03:46 AM

There might be a distinction in "The time period the main body of the work is set in" present day and "suppose to be the same year it was made" both would use Present Day as a card.

Soft split those IMO.

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#8: Sep 2nd 2011 at 10:45:36 AM

I think the simplest way to define it: "The work is set in the time period that was 'the present' when the work was created."

So written in 1961, set in 1961 is still The Present Day even if it's produced in 2011, because otherwise, we're going to have to be constantly updating the list and taking out all works that were written last year and set "in the present".

edited 2nd Sep '11 10:46:05 AM by Madrugada

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