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NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#1: Aug 28th 2011 at 7:28:17 PM

Full disclosure: I only noticed this after following a link on Clawshrimpy's signature after he started arguing with people in a thread on real robot shows over in the Manga & Anime forum.

Basically the entire article is "this is what Clawshrimpy thinks about this series", and it was written entirely by Clawshrimpy himself. (The only edits made by other people in the article's edit history are spelling and formatting issues.) I realize that there's No Such Thing As Notability, but what's the wiki policy on an article created and maintained entirely by the author of the work, which appears to be nothing but Complaining About Shows You Dont Like with a side of Gushing About Shows You Like and a dash of self-congratulation on the side? (The Shown Their Work entry, which compliments Clawshrimpy for "provid[ing] some very good information about the Brave Series in his introduction to Gao Gai Gar", was written by Clawshrimpy.)

I realize that articles on works by tropers are allowed (hell, there's a Troper Works index), and I even seem to recall hearing of a few cases of authors editing their own works pages, but this one seems to be entirely by the author and consists of nothing but stuff that we wouldn't allow on other pages of the wiki, with "Clawshrimpy says" put in front of it.

What do we do with this?

edited 28th Aug '11 7:29:36 PM by NativeJovian

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#3: Aug 28th 2011 at 8:28:20 PM

It's a work. We don't have a notability requirement for works. It isn't crosswicked, so there's no wiki magic. Aside from the fact that you disagree with him, I don't see a reason to kill the page.

If you think that it's badly written, edit it. If there are tropes that are not being used correctly, edit them.

edited 28th Aug '11 8:29:06 PM by Madrugada

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#4: Aug 28th 2011 at 8:42:37 PM

I agree with what Madru said, and I also think that it's in bad taste for an author to use subjective tropes to heap praise on their own work.

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#5: Aug 29th 2011 at 6:49:13 AM

Fair enough. I just wanted to double-check whether this sort of thing was allowed at all. It really seems like an attempt to avoid the prohibitions on Complaining About Shows You Dont Like and Gushing About Shows You Like on the wiki by doing it on a blog first before adding it to the wiki under that blog's page. As long as that's not against the rules or anything, I'll leave the page alone.

Thread can probably be locked, then.

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#6: Aug 29th 2011 at 8:20:50 AM

If he's actually doing the blog, the blog is a work. Simple as that. If he made one blog post then filled up the works page with things he was going to say, or intended to say, or would have said if he had ever gotten around to blogging it, that would be an end run around the rules. But the blog exists,and therefore the works page for it is legitimate.

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