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NoirGrimoir Rabid Fujoshi from San Diego, CA Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#1: Aug 19th 2011 at 6:20:33 PM

I would never have found this under the current title, and I think it's pretty opaque. Can we get a rename on this?

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#2: Aug 19th 2011 at 6:45:47 PM

...Is it supposed to be a pun? *checks* Whew, thank heavens the trope isn't about the pun.

edited 19th Aug '11 8:03:30 PM by Stratadrake

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NoirGrimoir Rabid Fujoshi from San Diego, CA Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#3: Aug 19th 2011 at 7:00:44 PM

Holy crap, is it supposed to be like "I digress?" Okay, that's just...it's just bad, is what it is.

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#4: Aug 19th 2011 at 8:02:27 PM

Yes, it is. I don't know why, but yes, it is.

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DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
#5: Aug 19th 2011 at 8:34:34 PM

Ok, so the trope is about people who can change the seasons. It needs something much more straightforward for a name, or at least a redirect since it has none.

SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#6: Aug 19th 2011 at 9:05:01 PM

These people are not responsible for changing the seasons, just what happens when the seasons change.

NoirGrimoir Rabid Fujoshi from San Diego, CA Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Rabid Fujoshi
#8: Aug 19th 2011 at 9:10:26 PM

The idea of the trope is that there are nature spirit things that run nature, like moving the sun up and down, manufacturing snowflakes or hanging dew drops.

edited 19th Aug '11 9:11:03 PM by NoirGrimoir

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#9: Aug 19th 2011 at 9:10:35 PM

No, not "change the seasons". Color or otherwise change the appearance of the outdoors. Jack Frost doesn't change the seasons, he just paints the leaves when the seasons change. The YKTTW is on the discussion page, take a look at it.

edited 19th Aug '11 9:10:57 PM by Madrugada

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Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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#10: Aug 19th 2011 at 9:12:47 PM

So basically that My Little Pony episode about changing of the seasons and how Pegasui (I think thats right) make the weather?

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NoirGrimoir Rabid Fujoshi from San Diego, CA Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Rabid Fujoshi
#11: Aug 19th 2011 at 9:13:06 PM

[up]Basically.

edited 19th Aug '11 9:13:15 PM by NoirGrimoir

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#13: Aug 19th 2011 at 10:05:11 PM

Needs to be more general, I think.

Nature Is My Job? We Handle Nature? Fantastic Explanations For Nature? We Make Nature Work?

edited 19th Aug '11 10:07:13 PM by Servbot

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
#14: Aug 19th 2011 at 10:11:26 PM

No, it does not need to be made more general. Please read the YKTTW; it's linked on the discussion page.

And I'll quote it here to make it even easier:

"

Ever wonder why the leaves turn colour in fall, or why frost appears on the window during the wintertime? Well, it's not due to any sort of scientific process. Usually appearing in mythology or children's entertainment, this is a character who is responsible for the beautiful colours and patterns we see in nature. The leaves? There's some guy going around and painting them one by one. The frost? Someone such as Jack Frost draws it on people's windows. A character of this trope is usually depicted as an artist; his or her medium just happens to be nature.

Title is a pun on the phrase "I digress." Said personifications are not necessarily also evil and also into cats.

Can be a subset of The Fair Folk or Anthropomorphic Personification. "

There is nothing wrong with the trope itself. The name is horrible but the trope itself is not broken It does not need to be changed.

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#15: Aug 19th 2011 at 10:19:50 PM

I meant the names that DRCEQ was suggesting (since all of DRCEQ's names were focused on weather alone when this would include things like "Why do leaves change color in autumn?"), not the trope itself. Sorry for the confusion.

edited 19th Aug '11 10:20:39 PM by Servbot

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NoirGrimoir Rabid Fujoshi from San Diego, CA Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Rabid Fujoshi
#17: Aug 19th 2011 at 10:45:20 PM

Punch Clock Nature Architects? evil grin

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#18: Aug 19th 2011 at 11:07:52 PM

I apologize, Servbot. I was overly hungry and angry about something else entirely. But that's an excuse, not a good reason.

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SomeSortOfTroper Since: Jan, 2001
#19: Aug 20th 2011 at 12:24:24 AM

I like the name because it makes me specifically think of the sort of creature who draws the frost on the windows or paints the autumn leaves brown.

I find it clear, I find it concise and...ok not witty but it makes me snirk a laugh.

No-one has painted a very good job of what they find wrong with it. I've got that it's "opaque" but this thread also spent half its time getting the trope wrong. Contrast that with the YKTTW which made the trope and which had people loving the name.

NoirGrimoir Rabid Fujoshi from San Diego, CA Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Rabid Fujoshi
#20: Aug 20th 2011 at 12:59:41 AM

[up]How does "I Dye Grass" even remotely let you know what this trope is about? Presumably it's about a character that...dyes grass? I mean, what the heck even is that? how do you get from that to nature spirits that make the world work? Grass doesn't even change color, so that in itself makes no sense! I had no idea what the name meant, and I doubt anyone else would without clicking on it. And I don't find the the pun amusing at all, either. I didn't even realize it was a pun at first.

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#21: Aug 20th 2011 at 1:03:49 AM

I Dye Grass reminds me of a Golf Course in which they do dye the grass. (not related to this trope)

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
#22: Aug 20th 2011 at 1:22:38 AM

I Dye Grass found in: 31 articles, excluding discussions.

This title has brought 69 people to the wiki from non-search engine links since 20th FEB '09.

Mediocre performance, but far from terrible, especially considering it's probably not the world's most common trope. I'd toss on some good redirects, then take another look in 6 months or so.

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Blackfire Since: Mar, 2011
#23: Aug 20th 2011 at 1:56:41 AM

Sprite Artist? Probably a better pun, but probably even less transparent.

Unrelated to the name does "why the leaves turn color in fall" make sense in American English? Because I would say change instead of turn (or turn red/brown/gold instead of turn color), but I'm not sure because I'd also use a different word for fall and a different spelling for color.

Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#24: Aug 20th 2011 at 2:08:33 AM

[up]"turn colors" (plural) is the usual idiom, I believe.

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#25: Aug 20th 2011 at 2:28:59 AM

"Turn", meaning "change" is an American idiom.

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AlternativeTitles: IDyeGrass
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