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#1: Aug 16th 2011 at 3:00:29 PM

I firmly believe that the current image does not properly reflect the meaning of the trope. Compare the image to Berserk Button and I think you'll find that they are rather alike. While a berserk button can be a part of creating a Woobie, Destroyer Of Worlds, it's not essential and not actually a part of the trope itself.

I am having a hard time wording my thoughts here, but needless to say I think the current picture is inadequate and as such, should be replaced. If you have any arguments against my judgement, then feel free to present them.

Ecktor Since: Apr, 2011
#2: Aug 16th 2011 at 3:12:15 PM

Agree. Nothing in the picture is being destroyed. Nothing indicates that the male or female will continue past a temporary Anger Riot. The only thing "woobie" about the picture is a girl dying (which can happen to non-woobie characters).

Would fit an "anger transformation" trope better.

ChaoticNovelist Since: Jun, 2010
#3: Aug 20th 2011 at 12:34:28 AM

I'm fine with it. The aura and the eyes and all, it certainly looks like shit's gonna go down. It works for me, I get the trope from it. However, I'm open to better ideas.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#4: Aug 20th 2011 at 1:56:29 AM

I agree. Shit is clearly about to go down.

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azul120 Since: Jan, 2001
#5: Aug 20th 2011 at 11:45:49 AM

Would a couple of frames from the Carrie prom scene work? I just thought of that the other day.

Also, I just noticed this was moved out of the YMMV section. Does this mean any links can be removed from YMMV pages?

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#6: Aug 20th 2011 at 9:34:46 PM

Yes. Any examples should be on the main page, if they're supported. If it's "this person is trying to destroy the world, I think they're a woobie" then that's an interpretation, which can stay on the YMMV.

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USAF713 I changed accounts. from the United States Since: Sep, 2010
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#7: Aug 20th 2011 at 9:37:28 PM

I think that the picture works. The trope is "they get pissed and they're trying to fuck everyone up, but they're sad and therefore sympathetic." Key word is trying. Just because they aren't destroying the world doesn't mean they aren't trying.

I think this works. Sad scene, aw, she died, poor him, then, holy shit, bitchin' and somebody is going to get their shit fucked up and their day ruined. Basically, the trope in a nutshell.

edited 20th Aug '11 9:37:41 PM by USAF713

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#8: Aug 20th 2011 at 9:50:54 PM

Now, if only we could find the source...

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#9: Aug 20th 2011 at 9:54:02 PM

It's already potholed to something...

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#10: Aug 21st 2011 at 12:13:52 AM

What do you know, someone actually found it.

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Jzadek Since: Mar, 2010
#11: Sep 6th 2011 at 10:53:35 AM

Keep it. I have no idea what it's from, but it seems to illustrate the point perfectly. That guy does not look merely angry like Berserk Button is supposed to be about. He has horns, Black Eyes of Evil and a magical aura.

edited 6th Sep '11 1:50:38 PM by Jzadek

McSomeguy Since: Dec, 2010
#12: Sep 20th 2011 at 6:44:38 AM

I'm reasonably certain that the current image is from a rather extreme hentai game. Inyouchuu, to be specific. Don't know if what actually happens to the character in it qualifies for this trope.

tropetown Since: Mar, 2011
#13: Sep 20th 2011 at 7:05:22 AM

Image is perfect. The guy looks like he's going to tear someone apart, and because of the first panel, we know it's because someone killed the girl (His girlfriend, maybe? I have no idea where the pic is from, so I have no clue). Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds in a nutshell.

edited 20th Sep '11 7:06:16 AM by tropetown

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#14: Sep 20th 2011 at 7:54:16 PM

I'm fine with the current pic.

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#15: Oct 18th 2011 at 7:20:07 AM

While the image does get the idea across, I think it could be done a bit better.

I would suggest Shinji Ikari, as per The End Of Evangelion. "Nobody understands me. Everyone just die."

Alternately, Lucy from Elfen Lied, Mu-12 from Blaz Blue Continuum Shift, The Scarlet Witch, real Overlord Zenon from Disgaea 2 Cursed Memories, or Xion from Kingdom Hearts.

edited 18th Oct '11 7:20:36 AM by EvaUnit01

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#16: Oct 18th 2011 at 11:01:06 PM

Do you have an image that shows that? The character isn't enough, we need an image that shows it to someone that hasn't seen the work.

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#17: Oct 19th 2011 at 5:02:33 AM

This is true. I'll see if I can find anything, and if I do, I'll link to it.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#18: Oct 19th 2011 at 2:14:37 PM

Thank you. If you want, you can upload it with the image uploader (limit of 350 pixels wide).

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#19: Oct 19th 2011 at 2:34:28 PM

He doesn't look like he qualifies as a woobie...

edited 19th Oct '11 2:34:44 PM by TheDeadMansLife

Please.
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#20: Oct 20th 2011 at 9:54:02 AM

Maybe something with Vash, from Trigun? Contrast a shot of shirtless with all his gnarly scars visible and a shot of him using the Angel Arm...

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
20LogRoot10 Since: Aug, 2011
#21: Oct 20th 2011 at 11:04:38 AM

I'm pretty sure Vash isn't an example.

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tropetown Since: Mar, 2011
#22: Oct 20th 2011 at 11:10:49 AM

Neither is Shinji; he's not motivated enough to be a Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds.

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#23: Oct 20th 2011 at 11:18:33 AM

[up] ...but he becomes one, all the same.

tropetown Since: Mar, 2011
#24: Oct 20th 2011 at 5:18:21 PM

I... suppose. It depends on the motivation, though; he was a Woobie, and he did end up causing Instrumentality, but was his intention to destroy the world, or was he just broken to the point of apathy?

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#25: Oct 20th 2011 at 9:23:24 PM

[up] Very much the latter, to my interpretation.

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