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I'm not seeing it. The trope list is accurate.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
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Think of the mooks!
A ball may be dropped, but this time, I think it's worth it to pick it up.
The trope list looks fairly solid, but the description of Offer himself is slanting negative. It describes his appearance as "sleazy," and I'm not so sure bringing up the incident with the prostitute is germaine to the article. It's not as bad as some articles have been, but I can see a good argument for making it a bit more neutral.
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I don't think we should ignore recorded events about the guy like his alleged assault on a hooker.
I do think stuff like "the products he hawks are crap" is uncalled for, though. Not only is it subjective, but there are credible sources saying his versions of certain products are more effective than Billy Mays version of said products. (Shamwow vs. Zorbees comes to mind, though I forget what the study was on that one.)
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Okay, I thought we didn't trope real life people, no matter how controversial they are. If the guy's an ad icon, then we classify him as a Creator and list tropes present in his work. Otherwise all of the stuff about him as a person needs to be cut, period.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Think of the mooks!
He is an ad icon; he was a hair shy of Billy Mays' popularity before Mays' untimely death.
Restricting his page to just his ads works just fine to me; unless his former link to A Certain Unnamed Religious Movement is relevant to a work, that should also be cut (though I did find it enlightening).
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I thought troping anything from Real Life was off limits only when associating certain tropes with certain real people, places, events, etc. would spark flame bait, natter, or would otherwise lead to argument or controversy.
Provided that a Real Life example isn't a square peg in a round trope, I stand by the Home Page's remark that "tropes are likely to show up everywhere", including the public life of one Offer "Vince" Shlomi.
edited 17th Aug '11 9:03:57 AM by SeanMurrayI
Lost in Space
Like many general policy decisions, it doesn't tend to get brought up in relationship to an article unless the article itself is controversial. But we do in fact have a rule about not troping RL people.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Dropped the personal stuff. Locking by request.
edited 19th Oct '11 7:08:05 PM by Camacan
I think it speaks for itself