Work that Doesn't Exist on Main: TV Tropes The Webcomic

See the title.

We're not supposed to do that, are we?

Infinite Tree: an experimental story

I think this one is fine, cause it's a Just for Fun page.

Works aren't supposed to be on Main. That's why we've got all the various media type namespaces.

Non existent works should either be in Just for Fun or Unpublished Works, or in Sugar Wiki.

edited 15th Aug '11 7:42:46 PM by Madrugada

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TV Tropes The Webcomic isn't actually a webcomic, nor is it an unpublished work. In a strange way, the page is the work. It's Just for Fun.

But I wouldn't oppose putting it in the Webcomic or Just for Fun namespaces.

edited 16th Aug '11 12:49:53 AM by MangaManiac

What about all the subpages?

@Madrugada: "Works aren't supposed to be on Main. That's why we've got all the various media type namespaces."

Another memo I missed?

edited 16th Aug '11 5:25:51 AM by Koveras

Probably.

Fight smart, not fair.

Can someone give me a link?

Namespace.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

Ooh, I love the How To Move A Page guide. And since the migration is described as voluntary, I wish good luck to whoever decides to go through with it. ^^

Also, looking at the list of namespaces, I think that WebOriginal/ is the best choice: it's a more or less accurate definition of the format (and the story has long outgrown a Just for Fun entry) and preserves the joke intact (of pretending this to be an actual webcomic).

There is a restriction. Even if you're not willing to move a page, you have to make any work pages there.

Also, glad to see you like How To Move A Page. There's a forum version at the top of TRS or Trope Talk, I forget which.

edited 16th Aug '11 2:45:12 PM by Deboss

Fight smart, not fair.

Seriously why does this exist?

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For fun.

There's also the fact at this point that... well... if you wanted to, it would probably be a legimiate to create an actual page about it listing the tropes used by it. Which would end up looking exactly the same.

^Of course it would be the same. The "work" is a list of whatever tropes people felt like adding at the time.

Infinite Tree: an experimental story

So, do we agree on moving this one to WebOriginal/ namespace? It only has 20 inbound wicks, no big thing to migrate.

I'd much prefer moving it to Just for Fun/, myself.

Infinite Tree: an experimental story

Yeah, Just for Fun probably works best. It's just a bunch of tropes people feel like randomly adding. Not really describing anything.

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+1 for moving it to Just for Fun.

Do we need a crowner?

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But Just for Fun would spoil the joke and kill the entire purpose of the comic. It's like placing a huge message on top of the page saying "This 'webcomic' is fake, don't look for it."

>"It's just a bunch of tropes people feel like randomly adding."

You are wrong. Had you actually read the article, you would have noticed that it has an on-going storyline, a recurring cast, and everything else required of a proper story. While it started off the way you described it, it has since developed a rather stable sense of continuity and plot consistency. Right now, it is a story, though told in an experimental format that confuses those who only read the first couple of paragraphs...

edited 13th Sep '11 10:29:18 AM by Koveras

I've read parts of it and well, it's not a very thought-out plotline. Hard to make one out actually. If you simply read the trope lists of almost anything, you won't really get a clear plotline. Unless you memorize the entire page, and can somehow make a chronological list of every single event.

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Same can be told of any work page on this wiki. It's just that in this case, the list of tropes in the story is the story, so it's both the story and its own analysis.

The first sentence of your post is an exact summary of my post before it. Why?

edited 13th Sep '11 10:36:47 AM by ThatHuman

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Why what? If you asking why it looks like an incoherent mess while I claim it has a coherent story, then the reason is the same as why everyone's respective favorite work page looks like an overdrawn unreadable mess littered with spoiler tags to those not familiar with this work. The brilliance of the TVTWC idea is in the realization that with enough tropes and examples, you can create a perfectly authentic illusion of a work's existence through using the format familiar to the readers of TV Tropes. That is also the reason why it's called "TV Tropes The Webcomic" rather than Something Else The Webcomic.

EDIT: But my objection referred to something else. By moving this page to the Just for Fun namespace, you implicitly or explicitly degrade it to a "random collection of tropes thrown together", which is quite an insult to the writers who put a lot of effort in creating the outline of a plot and the illusion of a published work. Being one of those authors, I cannot help but object to such detrimental treatment of our work. If I am seeing it wrong, please correct me.

Also, I have already mentioned the killing-the-joke part.

edited 13th Sep '11 10:55:51 AM by Koveras

I don't consider the "killing the joke" part a valid argument at all, considering that the "joke" is pretty much "I Lied, there actually isn't such a webcomic."

As for having coherent storylines...well, I sort of see it, but it looks more like people took sets of related tropes and called them "storylines." This would probably be achievable with a computer program.

Infinite Tree: an experimental story

Out of curiosity*

, what is the hypothetical TV Tropes equivalent of Wikipedia's "No Original Research"?

TV Tropes is a wiki for works which exist in any tangible, published form (noticeability by outside sources be damned), but it is not a place to create works that otherwise do not exist in any form whatsoever.

edited 13th Sep '11 11:38:24 AM by Stratadrake

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