Venezuela and the Chavez Legacy

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If you're looking for a more mature society in South America you're straight out of luck.

Can I bask in my country's neoliberal economics and lack of erosion of democratic institutions, or do I have to wait?

I don't know the more I live the more I agree with the fact we are all crazy, not just Venezuelans like Pepe Mujica said.

Can't say I don't often feel like I'm slowly going insane.

I'm jelly.

Join us in Panama, we have basic necessities and a stable government, also, no army.

El Manual del Perfecto Idiota Latinoamericano is a thing because most of us Lationamericans *are* idiots.

Granted, so are most US citizens, but they at least can live off the rents from and the systems built by previous, more intelligent generations. At least until they elect Trump and he burns all that away.

edited 8th Jun '16 5:25:27 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

Well, in the US the President isn't really that powerful and the legislative can block a lot of harmful policies if they organize themselves to.

Unlike here where there is a disproportionate amount of power in the hands of the executive branch and almost none in the judiciary branch.

The issue with latin america is that the idea of super leader who will save us all still reach a sweet spot with people.

I fact as one university parner said to me: we make politics a religion and here chavismo become a caste on itself.

US as Nox said trust more in the system, sometimes to the point where is stupid(like cops shooting blacks)

so again, latinos are chaotic stupid to US lawfull ones

Well, when you put it like that, we Chileans do have it pretty good, comparatively.

It's just like Sócrates said we are all a bunch of idiots.

The Philosopher or the football player?

Leopoldo a demostrado una paciencia casi maquiavélica en su camino al poder, aunque a demostrado ser confiable no me gusta la idea de tener otro gigante socialistoide montado.

Aunque es más que obvio que los Venezolanos no haran nada mas por su cuenta así que la historia se repite.

I have seen neither chilens workship the living ground of allende OR pinochet so yeah

Leopoldo hizo lo que Manuel no:quedarse en vez de correr, ya casi nadie se acuerda de que el sujeto era intolerable,personalista,egocentrico y quien sabe mas

Y nadie sabe que hacer, el venezolano cuando no puede resolver las cosas a puñetazos, se jode

You haven't been looking hard enough. There's crazy aplenty.

Yeh. Obviously I can't speak for real life, but the 'net (or at least the places I go to) is filled with Pinochet/Allende apologists. Also loads of Maduro->Allende, Leopoldo->Pinochet analogies.

Also, one of the most unpleasant political things I've read on the net was loads of Chilean leftists calling Diego Arria fascist and likening him to Pinochet. (Arria had been ambassador in Santiago, most notably during Pinochet's coup he personally saw to it that would-be persecution targets were smuggled out of the country into safety.)

The left-right conflict here is very vitriolic. It's terribly hard to find a good neutral place for discussion.

Compare here that is downright civil

And yes, I know "I least we are not venezuela" is not worthy complement but is to put things in perpective

It's alright, all we need is someone to make Venezuela great again.

With very big hands, and the finest steaks, and the biggest dong. Very big hands, I assure you.

Oil is at over 40 $/barrel now. I think it's a good time to stop saying that it's low, it's merely not sky-high.

Also holy fucking shit I can't stop laughing.

I don't buy the whole there will never be another boom thing, it will probably be around 30-60 for a lot of time but I'm sure another boom willl eventually happen because It's human nature?

I just hope we can start working as a Republic with laws and get our education working properly like the japanese did before that.

"It's alright, all we need is someone to make Venezuela great again. "

We already have that in Venezuela, it was call chavez, now is time from US to have their own caudillo, that will be fun

If Trump was more serious about solving the migration crisis instead being a populist racist he may have a chance of beating Hillary but all he is doing is alienating a huge chunk of the US population against the Republicans. The same thing is happening in Europe.

Basically in Europe and the US the far left and right are gaining power over middle stances.

edited 11th Jun '16 6:53:28 AM by HibikiOni

Alright, it's the second time someone responds in earnest to one of my strikeout jokes. Maybe it's not showing up on your browsers?