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Huh. I did not expect that Guatdian article. Word of advice, don't read the comments.
Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
The son of Chavez, from what I know of him, is a despicable irresponsible party dog gallivanting around Europe. He's so bad Chavez himself never mentioned him in public.
Now a lurker. See you at the forums.
Yes, although no one, not even in the government, likes to talk about him. Same thing as for his first wife.
For the love of Zangief!! Today Maduro give a speech of how he recovered "La Casona" for the people, and now it would be the house for the poor, the old, blah blah the same bullshit.
Way to ignore the fact you wouldn't have it because Chavez daugthers escaped to Argentina you ass.
Oh and today concentration is made mainly by bikers (?), a.k.a half the delincuents in Venezuela.
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To quote M. Night Shyamalan: "What a twiiiiiist"
edited 24th Feb '14 12:11:22 PM by eligram
Maduro expelled CNN?! How are you able to use this forum if there's such a big media blackout ?
Now a lurker. See you at the forums.
Because shutting down the internet would be too low for him. They watch porn too, you know.
edited 24th Feb '14 5:43:23 PM by Tomodachi
To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Ummm, was that a rhetorical question?
And that's how I ended up in the wardrobe. It Just Bugs Me!
Which one ?
The second one, I suppose.
And that's how I ended up in the wardrobe. It Just Bugs Me!
Well there was such a big media blackout. I heard Venezuela shut down its twitter network. So it follows that it you can't use twitter, well..
There is such a media blackout. Connections were messed with such that Twitter would have problems loading, and wouldn't load pictures, but that was days ago. Either way, you can block Twitter without blocking TV Tropes.
And that's how I ended up in the wardrobe. It Just Bugs Me!
There are many parts of the country that lack internet. It's just that in the capital, well, it would be a little more difficult. Not to mention, TV Tropes is probably many points below their radar.
Obstacles are those frightful things you see when you take your eyes off the goal.
So I just heard this rumor that Chavez went to a... how do one call them in english? Witch? Warlock? (Brujo) and took one of Simon Bolivar bones and made a cane with it for protection when he got diagnosed with cancer. How much of that is true? I know he has done a lot of shit to Bolivar remants but that would be a massive Jumping Off the Slippery Slope from his part.
edited 25th Feb '14 8:30:29 AM by eligram
Now a lurker. See you at the forums.
I think is just a rumor.
To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
The most appropriate terms I can think of are witch doctor, voodoo priest, and fortune teller, but I highly doubt any of those are actually accurate
Never Trust
Sorsorer?
edited 25th Feb '14 11:48:23 AM by tricksterson
Trump delenda est
...I'm not the only person who imagined the thread title in Indiana jones font am I ? >_<
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Warlock would be the closest translation of brujo, though the intended meaning is probably closer to witch doctor. And I doubt Chavez was THAT nuts.
Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
HGW XX/7
Two articles on British left-wing blog Left Foot Forward today:
Anti-Maduro: http://www.leftfootforward.org/2014/02/the-labour-movement-should-drop-illusions-about-venezuela/
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They're both up now.
edited 26th Feb '14 8:29:31 AM by Achaemenid
Schild und Schwert der Partei
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EDIT: Never mind. It's hard to take the pro-Maduro article very seriously when it straight-facedly ignores the food shortage, calls the protests right-wing violent extremists, paints the government as peacefully opposing the protester's violence, and claims the elections were completely fair and balanced.
edited 26th Feb '14 8:30:37 AM by Ninety
Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
ಠ_ಠ
(The wire thing is pretty stupid, I'll grant them that.)
And that's how I ended up in the wardrobe. It Just Bugs Me!
You know what, reading English VTV mirrors like that leaves a sour taste in my mouth, and posting nothing but a face of disapproval is somewhat not good manners, so here's a rundown with the usual retorts:
1) "La Salida" doesn't translate to "The Ousting". It translates to "The Exit" or "The Way Out", much less refers to a violent overthrow (it's about promoting grassroots activism to build the way for a constitutional exit, for example the referendum which won't happen). I'm putting this first because it sets the tone for the rest of the article.
2) The MUD isn't right-wing or neo-liberal.
3) Those elections have been obvious bullshit, and international overseeing them has been bullshit, too. In fact, one of these institutions violated their confidency agreement (?) to assert that 14-A's elections were bullshit. Audit pending. Also, even if we go by electoral results, turns out we don't want socialism, either.
4) These protests weren't started by a right-wing anything against an electoral anything, it was started by students protesting against insecurity.
5) There won't be any recall referendum.
6) Nobody has died from anything burning, I don't know where that came from. VTV's building wasn't sieged, that's bullshit the author swallowed up entirely. (Though again, the wire death thing is true.)
7) "In contrast, the government has repeatedly condemned all violence and called for peace and talks with the opposition." What side are the GNB, PNB, Sebin and paramilitaries on? Besides that, "crazy fascists" and all the usual bullshit.
8) "Neither the CIA nor Uribe funds our outrage."
9) Who said anything about violent change?
10) "Distorted media coverage" it says, while student marches aren't even televised.
11) That officialist crowd is just one okay-sized manifestation, meanwhile the opposition is having some the largest manifestations the country has ever seen.
12) (Can't load the pamphlet thing, so I won't argue against it, but I know what to answer if it contains the usual points about unemployment, minimum wage, GDP, poverty and inequality.)
13) On healthcare and education, that was true a long time ago. With the collapse of these services, it no longer is.
14) On poverty, they've made poverty more manageable, true, but that is very different from getting them out of poverty. More to the point, these conditions (subsidies, etc.) aren't sustainable, as has been showing with the collapse of these social (political) projects.
15) On the above two points and socioeconomic matters in general, as usual they ignore that the reds have been enjoying the greatest bonanza the country has had, due to sky-high oil prices.
16) That's it for positive points. The list of negative points is lengthy so whatever.
Also:
I said that a few pages back, but you know what? From now on I think I'll spite the foreign left just the same. Life's much easier that way.
And that's how I ended up in the wardrobe. It Just Bugs Me!
@Tomodachi: Is exactly as stormtroper said.
And now Chavez daugthers went (run away) to Argentina. Finally letting Maduro to use "La Casona". There's fear on their side alright.
Speaking of usseless cowards, where is Diosdado? Haven't heard of him from a while.