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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#2826: Dec 11th 2017 at 12:11:13 AM

[up][up] The recurring pattern I see with Venezuela (and China, and Russia, and all those other countries) is that in the early years, the quality of life did improve somewhat after they took power, but that's mostly because the living conditions beforehand were so fucking dismal and stagnant that any movement which kicked people's asses into gear made for an improvement. And Chavez was buffered by the power of oil. But it never lasts. This concentration of so much far-ranging power into an individual institution is so fertile for abuse that despotism is inevitable. Authoritarianism, never once.

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#2827: Dec 11th 2017 at 12:17:36 AM

[up][up]At according to what I previously read here, the only people with the armed strength needed to do more than what already has been done by the opposition is the military.

...which incidentally has been busy carving out its own little fiefdom to keep the rank and file loyal to them.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
Malebranche El cambur volador. from Maracaibo, Venezuela Since: Apr, 2017 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
El cambur volador.
#2828: Dec 11th 2017 at 7:09:34 AM

[up][up] Ironically, Pre-Chávez Venezuela is a far better example of effective Socialism than the Venezuela of today. Back in Rafael Caldera's first term, security in here was better than in the US. A lot of gringo celebrities lived in Caracas and the gringos who worked in PDVSA were better paid here than in the US. We even started emulating the US with our cities design. Those left-wing assholes who defend Chavez and Castro are the perfect examples of first world commies that don't really know shit.

Also yeah, as long as the opposition doesn't get the military on their side, the status quo isn't going to change. The opposition can either play dumb and follow the goverment's game or maybe do some street protests to take adventage of the discontent against the goverment until an event like 2002's rebellion repeats itself. At least that's what I would do and It's our only hope at this point.

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Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#2829: Dec 15th 2017 at 7:12:31 AM

PDVSA is being purged.

No, not for "failure", for "corruption".

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
Malebranche El cambur volador. from Maracaibo, Venezuela Since: Apr, 2017 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
El cambur volador.
#2831: Dec 18th 2017 at 9:56:30 AM

Electricity was out in 3 states a few hours ago. Be safe any tropes over there!

Inflation and scarcity keep getting worse by the day...

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Malebranche El cambur volador. from Maracaibo, Venezuela Since: Apr, 2017 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
El cambur volador.
#2832: Dec 20th 2017 at 10:06:02 AM

There was a transport strike in East Caracas recently. It's because people are frustrated because of It's price.

Gasoline and products are becoming more rare. The country is slowly stopping itself.

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zsax Since: Mar, 2015
#2833: Dec 22nd 2017 at 11:22:42 AM

Dear diary, it really feels good living in a nation about to collapse. [tup]

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#2834: Dec 22nd 2017 at 12:02:40 PM

[up][up]we are not colapsing, we are rotting from wittin it, is a very slow death.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Grafite Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Less than three
#2836: Dec 22nd 2017 at 12:46:28 PM

I do wonder how Venezuela can come out alright out of this if even the agricultural sector is collapsing (the farmers aren't getting good pesticides from the government and crops are dying, according to BBC).

edited 22nd Dec '17 12:46:57 PM by Grafite

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Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Now a lurker. See you at the forums.
#2837: Dec 22nd 2017 at 8:42:36 PM

I feel happy, knowing many of these pests will die either by their own stupidity or by the law in other countries.

My resentment for them is too great.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#2838: Dec 22nd 2017 at 10:42:23 PM

A country's right to choose its own development path must be respected, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi told his Venezuelan counterpart on Friday.

"China wishes that Venezuela maintains its trend of returning to stability, and encourages the resolution of the problems that exist via dialogue and consultation within a legal framework," the ministry cited Wang as saying.

"Every country's right to go down a development path that accords with its national conditions should be respected," he added.

Development? Venezuela?

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
The law in the night
#2839: Dec 23rd 2017 at 5:35:41 AM

[up]China? Allowing other smaller countries to choose their own development path?

Wut.

edited 23rd Dec '17 5:35:58 AM by AngelusNox

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#2840: Dec 23rd 2017 at 5:39:22 AM

[up] It is because the current Venezuela government is friendly to China.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Stormtroper from Little Venice Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: I-It's not like I like you, or anything!
#2841: Dec 25th 2017 at 8:03:15 AM

These are the darkest Christmas we've had. Literally, there was this large blackout in Maracaibo. At the place I was staying it lasted four hours.

Also the absence of Christmas ornaments is noteworthy.

But still, Merry Christmas everyone!

And that's how I ended up in the wardrobe. It Just Bugs Me!
Malebranche El cambur volador. from Maracaibo, Venezuela Since: Apr, 2017 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
El cambur volador.
#2842: Dec 27th 2017 at 8:35:34 AM

I curse those damn Communist bastards for what they did to my beautiful Maracaibo D:! I was out during the whole blackout and I'm staying with some family members in Valencia right now. My sister had no electricity for almost 2 whole days. The blackouts will probably continue all the way to Friday at least... From what I've seen, despite the lack of service, Valencia is actually much more decent than both Maracaibo and San Cristobal. The public services don't work in Maracaibo and garbage is everywhere on the street. I curse Arias Cardenas and whoever the hell won recently and everyone on Chavismo!

¡Ojala los violen y les den por el culo!

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Stormtroper from Little Venice Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: I-It's not like I like you, or anything!
#2843: Jan 15th 2018 at 7:55:05 PM

I regret that time I called Oscar Pérez a memelord.

And that's how I ended up in the wardrobe. It Just Bugs Me!
Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#2844: Jan 15th 2018 at 8:21:35 PM

Caracas announced that they're conducting an anti-terror raid to arrest the so-called terrorist aka the pilot who defected and hurled grenades out of his chopper.

Malebranche El cambur volador. from Maracaibo, Venezuela Since: Apr, 2017 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
El cambur volador.
#2845: Jan 15th 2018 at 8:26:44 PM

My god they even used a Rocket Launcher on the house he was in... I still don't know if he made it or not.

edited 15th Jan '18 8:27:02 PM by Malebranche

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Stormtroper from Little Venice Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: I-It's not like I like you, or anything!
#2846: Jan 15th 2018 at 8:35:03 PM

He's dead. I know information is unreliable as fuck today but now we have photo evidence (obviously NSFW).

edited 15th Jan '18 8:35:18 PM by Stormtroper

And that's how I ended up in the wardrobe. It Just Bugs Me!
Malebranche El cambur volador. from Maracaibo, Venezuela Since: Apr, 2017 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
El cambur volador.
#2847: Jan 15th 2018 at 8:45:38 PM

Dammit. I curse this satanic government, this is so fucked up.

The Opposition (well at least Soy Venezuela) is calling for protests on January 22.

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zsax Since: Mar, 2015
#2848: Jan 15th 2018 at 9:45:10 PM

I heard there are cacerolazos in some parts of Caracas. I am sure that will work this time.

Malebranche El cambur volador. from Maracaibo, Venezuela Since: Apr, 2017 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
El cambur volador.
#2849: Jan 16th 2018 at 2:07:34 PM

Guys so, there's been constant lootings and protests from the Venezuelan lower classes during these 2 months or so, they've been happening daily and I think the murder of Oscar Perez might heat things up again in the next weeks.

Students of the Ludovico Silva protested today because of the constant robberies against them and teachers. The GNB is there trying to control the situation.

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Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Now a lurker. See you at the forums.
#2850: Jan 23rd 2018 at 8:20:10 PM

So, Chavismo hasn't notice they became worse than how the country was handled in the 90's, or are they just that blind?

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.

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