Venezuela and the Chavez Legacy

The face of Socialism, for better or worse.

(The answer is worse.)

Anyhows, I'm done for a while. I'll redo the first part later. Although again I can't help but think that if somebody knew nothing about Chávez or us besides that page they'd get a wrong impression on what we've been going through. I think his political abuses deserve more than being mentioned in passing, when not glossed over, but... yeah, how is one supposed to go about this?

(Also, to clarify, I changed the "if I'm killed and I die" part because although it's probably his most famous phrase, he said it well after those elections.)

edited 26th Sep '17 7:36:27 PM by Stormtroper

Weird. Well, I copied and pasted the "Chavez in popular culture" part of Wikipedia, and noticed the american show with the terrible Chavez imitation is no longer there. Odd, I remember seeing it on youtube. I look for it later.

I mostly copied just for the sake of having the information at hand, for some reason, Wikipedia turns the internet very slow. We need to include Oliver Stone on the article, and I need to search the name of the Moe illustrations of dictators, where Chavez was a bimbo and F Idel Castro a white-haired lady playing baseball.

Thanks a lot for the help :) seriously.

Ahh, it's nothing.

Also here's the moe dictators thing. This hideous thing◊ is Chávez and here◊ is Fidel. Speaking of which, I hadn't thought of it but the author went out of his way to find the Aló Presidente logo, the 'Chávez corazón del pueblo' hearts, which IIRC were new at the time, and the dressing-as-flag thing. That plus all the trivia throughout the book makes me think the author(s) really did their homework.

I'll have nightmares about those pictures now... gee thanks.

How much you bet there is porn of La Comandante Boobies Chavez?

By the way, by reading Doña Barbara, I remembered my days at high school, when they asked us to read Ifigenia, and while I didn't finish the novel (I was a teenager, the novel was boring), I do remember the theme Teresa de la Parra was speaking: just how Venezuela sucked in comparison to France.

And not only that, in Doña Barbara, Santos Luzardo many times thought of leaving the country due to the land not forgiving and being too ignorant (It doesn't help the man almost went to a dark route by taking justice by his hand).

So, i'm noticing sort of a pattern: Venezuela literature was about how much Venezuela sucked? And then I remember it wasn't until Chávez that most of the population started to read (and even then, according to a chavista magazine I read, they mostly look for poetry or socialist works.)

Maybe i'm exaggerating (I always do). This just reminds me why my favorite Venezuelan novel back in high school was "Piedra de mar". It may not be the best written, but it was relatable to me, and thats what mattered.

edited 27th Sep '17 7:10:19 PM by Tomodachi

"Venezuela literature was about how much Venezuela sucked"

That's kind of a trend with Latin American literature (especially from the 19th and early 20th century) because many works were written by people who wanted to "europeanize" the continent. They were trying to make Latin America "shitty" to justify why it needed to be changed to be closer to the author's idea of a european society.

Well, the continent as a whole is kinda shit, so pretty much reminding people how things actually are can give the impression the authors are bashing.

The students's movement is calling people to vote and not give up. I'm glad someone else is optimistic. I've been really excited about the elections recently.

It's good to encourage voting. I think a lot of the problems these days are due to people forgetting how important it is. Not voting means giving up what little power you have to the people who do vote. If you don't vote, you don't get to complain about the result unless you genuinely believed all of the choices were equally awful and/or you were actually prevented from voting.

Unfortunately for most of us, the opposition has proven that they can be for the most part just as corrupt as the government. I'm still excited because of the elections because if the opposition wins most governations, the international pressure against both the government and the opposition will increase. The fraud of the constituent will become more obvious.

At this point we need the military's help. So all we can do as citizens is create another wave of protests, I'm hoping the elections create a similar chain reaction like last time.

The reds are worried and scared of the elections for the reasons I already explained. We usually have them on December, but this time we will have them on October because they fear losing all governations.

Is odd, but the elections on my city seems to be heated. There are two chavistas running for the goverment: the one the goverment wants, and the former governor, who is not with the ANC. There is also opposition candidate Robert Alcala, who gained previous and popular governor Ramon Martinez support.

Seems like the opposition could win, due to the chavismo side being quite separated.

edited 2nd Oct '17 4:47:18 PM by Tomodachi

Even if the opposition doesn't win all governations, Chavismo may still win a few with a very small advantage, so either way the constituent's fraud will become evident.

edited 2nd Oct '17 4:50:02 PM by Malebranche

Almagro asked the opposition to pressure the government more. It's nice to hear that from the usual overly politically correct politicians. Also, It's disgusting how the OAS still hasn't even started the process about expelling the Venezuelan government. Good for Almagro and his words, things have been really shitty recently.

So the US thinks Venezuela should express itself with the elections. I agree, make sure you guys vote so the international pressure increases.

On Monday, Venezuelan citizens burned a town hall in Los Taques as a way of protest due to the lack of water and electricity.

I see people thirsting for violence. I can't really blame them, I also have been feeling the same about the reds recently.

Edit: I recently heard something about the EU joining to sanction Maduro or something? does anyone has more info?

edited 11th Oct '17 3:07:37 PM by Malebranche

Well, the government says the opposition only won 5 governations out of 23. (obviously a fraud of epic proportions)

Well, at least Juan Pablo Guanipa won in Zulia! My mission is completed.

edited 15th Oct '17 8:47:18 PM by Malebranche

And the curtains fall, with a predictable ending.

How screwed are we?

Nah, you are right this was predictable. All the more with the constituent fraud they did earlier...

:/

Now what?

I think vengeance is the only thing we have left now.

The government wants the mayor's elections to happen on December 10 now, well if the opposition is smart, instead of stopping like last time they have to fight with all methods.

It will be interesting to see how the opposition handles this, I see them too divided.

edited 18th Oct '17 7:21:08 AM by Malebranche

"Well, at least Juan Pablo Guanipa won in Zulia! My mission is completed. "

My mother said arias was throw to the wolf by chavismo and is going to do the same with guanipa, since a this point maduro barely give a shit about representing everyone but itself.

Juan Pablo said he won't go to the contituent so I guess our new governor will be Magdely.

I also heard something about the government repeating the elections (?) Honestly, now is the moment if the opposition accepts this crap passively they will be commiting harakiri.

edited 19th Oct '17 2:45:34 PM by Malebranche

So Popular Will is saying it rejects the way the adeco governors accepted the constituent and is calling for a meeting and all that. Man, Venezuela is surely a real life example of a soup opera.

I'm glad Juan Pablo didn't accept the constituent.

Soup opera?