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OldManHoOh It's super effective. from England Since: Jul, 2010
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#1: Aug 6th 2011 at 3:35:35 PM

Adaptation Decay has been reworked to in-universe examples only. Presumably this should have been cut along with that. Any objections?

edited 6th Aug '11 3:48:16 PM by OldManHoOh

Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
#2: Aug 6th 2011 at 4:36:15 PM

I think this concept has some merit (perhaps because I'm still not happy with having Adaptation Decay as a trope you can't even mention except in-universe), but the definition is poorly thought out and gratuitously opinionated, and none of the examples explain themselves. I can't say I oppose cutting this.

morenohijazo Forofgold power! from Zaragoza, Spain Since: Nov, 2009
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#4: Oct 28th 2011 at 3:30:12 AM

Trope Decay has nothing to do with this trope.

Seriously, my avatar comes from the embodiment of the So Bad, It's Good trope.
DarkNemesis Since: Aug, 2010
#5: Oct 28th 2011 at 3:12:12 PM

Adaptation Decay was made in-universe but its sub-tropes were not, of which this would either be or a related trope. Either way, the scale is pretty much an overgeneralization about how closely a derivative work overall mirrors its source material and since most of the examples are just a listing of the work and not a rant on how They Misadapted It Now It Sucks, there's little chance of it going rotten like Adaptation Decay.

Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
#6: Oct 28th 2011 at 3:50:13 PM

I don't see why "decay" is in the title at all. Why not "Sliding Scale Of Adaptation"? The scale measures how much the work adapted the original, not how much decay resulted.

edited 29th Oct '11 5:12:10 AM by Routerie

Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#8: Oct 28th 2011 at 10:12:53 PM

You should see the YKTTW — original working title was "faithfulness versus finanaces". Egad.

edited 28th Oct '11 10:14:42 PM by Stratadrake

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DarkNemesis Since: Aug, 2010
#9: Oct 29th 2011 at 10:57:24 AM

Sliding Scale Of Adaptation Faithfulness?

I'm noticing another minor problem with the scale; it applies to adaptations made long after the source material, particularly the Marvel films where the old origin is given a modern-day context. Does this really count as part of "decay", especially since these are compressed adaptations?

edited 29th Oct '11 11:13:45 AM by DarkNemesis

20LogRoot10 Since: Aug, 2011
#10: Oct 29th 2011 at 2:10:31 PM

[up]I'm inclined to say "yes". It's a bit of pragmatism, which fits just fine on the scale(it's entirely possible to actually set an adaptation at the same time as original, after all).

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Specialist290 Since: Jan, 2001
#11: Nov 3rd 2011 at 9:18:16 AM

[up][up] Seconding this suggestion.

Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#12: Jan 19th 2012 at 7:33:31 PM

There seems to be support for a rename. Does anyone want to put together a crowner for this?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#13: Mar 18th 2012 at 2:58:27 AM

There is now a Single Proposition crowner for a rename here

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#14: Mar 18th 2012 at 7:29:24 AM

Is there any point in listing examples, when there's no objective criteria?

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#15: Mar 18th 2012 at 7:32:34 AM

Yes. It's about the changes in the story during adaptation.

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#16: Mar 18th 2012 at 7:33:56 AM

I'd like to hear some options first.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#17: Mar 30th 2012 at 10:41:08 AM

Bumping to get more votes and to propose Sliding Scale of Adaptation Modification as an alt-name.

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#19: Apr 14th 2012 at 2:03:40 PM

I prefer Sliding Scale Of Adaptation Faithfulness since "Modification" just doesn't sound right.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#20: Apr 14th 2012 at 2:07:08 PM

I prefer the rhyme of "Adaptation Modification", and I don't like the implication in "Faithfulness" that adaptations have to be identical to the original.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
#21: Apr 14th 2012 at 2:12:59 PM

[up]Agree about the word "faithfulness." It sounds too much like one side of the scale is good and the other is bad. Actually, I can think of examples where authors' adaptations of their own works change enormous amounts. The adaptation is certainly faithful to the original's spirit, but it changes a great deal.

ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#22: Apr 23rd 2012 at 1:27:19 PM

Calling crowner in favor of Sliding Scale Of Adaptation Modification

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#23: Apr 23rd 2012 at 1:38:30 PM

Renamed wicks and pages, made second-most-popular option a redirect and made note on Renamed Tropes and the FAQ thread.

After discussion move, we should be done.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#24: Apr 23rd 2012 at 1:43:40 PM

Moved the discussion, made a note pointing to this thread on the discussion page. Locking up. Sleep tight, sweet thread.

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AlternativeTitles: SlidingScaleOfAdaptationDecay
5th Apr '12 6:10:57 AM

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Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.

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