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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! I'm editing this OP and pinning it to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

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[Edited by Fighteer]

    Original post 
Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM

Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#9151: Feb 12th 2014 at 9:00:41 PM

Iron Fist was a normal human who punched a dragon to death to get a superpunch that can bring down a helicarrier.

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DrFurball Two-bit blockhead from The House of the Rising Sun Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Tongue-tied
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#9152: Feb 12th 2014 at 9:00:51 PM

Well, if memory serves, his chi-based powers (and chest tattoo) are the result of killing a dragon during his training.

EDIT: Yeah, that. [up]

edited 12th Feb '14 9:01:30 PM by DrFurball

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#9153: Feb 12th 2014 at 9:05:58 PM

20 bucks says that the dragon will be an alien.

And instead of Kung Fu magic, it'll be nanomachines.

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Hodor Cleric of Banjo from Westeros Since: Dec, 1969
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#9154: Feb 12th 2014 at 9:06:59 PM

Huh, not sure why I was lumping in Iron Fist with the rest. I'd imagine that he would have mystical powers, but wouldn't really go into their origin, as people wouldn't believe him.

Interested in seeing how the others are handled though.

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Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#9155: Feb 12th 2014 at 9:07:34 PM

Or he will have superpowers and claim he got it by punching a mystical dragon to death and everyone will just think he's a superhuman who happens to be crazy and it isn't confirmed one way or the other.

Like early Ult!Thor.

"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des Ursins
DrFurball Two-bit blockhead from The House of the Rising Sun Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Tongue-tied
Two-bit blockhead
#9156: Feb 12th 2014 at 9:11:06 PM

[up][up][up] I can buy the dragon being an alien. I mean, there's a whole planet of alien dragons in the comics.

Hey, why not make Danny's dragon victim be Fin Fang Foom? It's not like Composite Characters are unusual for this franchise.

edited 12th Feb '14 9:11:35 PM by DrFurball

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#9157: Feb 12th 2014 at 9:11:51 PM

This is being done on a TV budget so I'd be really shocked if they had him fighting a dragon period.

maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#9159: Feb 12th 2014 at 9:27:16 PM

Just have him mention it offhand during his origin episode. Preferably, after he does it, Luke calls him out on it.

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RedM Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
#9160: Feb 12th 2014 at 9:36:20 PM

Is it weird that I picture the TV Defenders meeting like the beginning of The Breakfast Club? Is it weird that I now picture all superhero teams meeting that way?

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kalel94 Rascal King from Dragonstone Since: Feb, 2011
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#9161: Feb 12th 2014 at 10:48:31 PM

[up] That's just how they should be done.

The last hurrah? Nah, I'd do it again.
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#9162: Feb 12th 2014 at 11:57:13 PM

I wish we'd get to a Doctor Strange movie so that the MCU wouldn't be tech limited instead of doing "Phase 1 connected hero storyline number 17". That way people would be able to accept Iron Fist easier.

Also, SHYEAH, GOTG!

edited 12th Feb '14 11:57:43 PM by wanderlustwarrior

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kalel94 Rascal King from Dragonstone Since: Feb, 2011
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#9164: Feb 13th 2014 at 12:21:36 AM

http://imgur.com/Mlb8utE

edited 13th Feb '14 12:21:46 AM by kalel94

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Bluespade from Fort Worth, Texas Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
#9165: Feb 13th 2014 at 9:25:52 AM

I wish we'd get to a Doctor Strange movie so that the MCU wouldn't be tech limited instead of doing "Phase 1 connected hero storyline number 17". That way people would be able to accept Iron Fist easier.

They're already doing Iron Fist anyway and the MCU is hardly tech limited, what with all the alien magic flying around. Guardians is gonna add a bunch of weirdness as well I'd expect. I don't see how Doctor Strange existing would make them any more likely to stop connecting storylines to Phase 1.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#9166: Feb 13th 2014 at 9:39:10 AM

Space tech is still tech. Magitek is still tech. Actual magic would be nice but's that's not happening ever so whatever.

Bluespade from Fort Worth, Texas Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
#9167: Feb 13th 2014 at 9:40:51 AM

Except, y'know, the Doctor Strange movie that they're actually making.

And the Aether that was in the last movie. And the Tesseract. And Loki's magic which is specifically referred to as magic and doesn't use any technological components at all.

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kalel94 Rascal King from Dragonstone Since: Feb, 2011
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#9168: Feb 13th 2014 at 9:46:24 AM

Are we really still doing this? Guys, magic is science. Science is magic. There is no distinction in this world.

The last hurrah? Nah, I'd do it again.
stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#9169: Feb 13th 2014 at 9:47:41 AM

It's easier to just ignore that discussion and move on.

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#9170: Feb 13th 2014 at 10:04:44 AM

So what kinds of villains should be on our Defenders wishlist? I'm hoping for Typhoid Mary on the Daredevil end. And Stilt Man. I dare some Marvel head honcho to give him a serious backstory.

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Wackd Since: May, 2009
#9171: Feb 13th 2014 at 10:08:18 AM

"After my parents were murdered by a superhero, a pair of stilts flew into the window of my study. I then knew what I had to do."

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#9172: Feb 13th 2014 at 10:13:38 AM

The vast majority of hero origin stories have come from technology, or science derived from Erskine's experiment. Vision and Ultron will be more of the former. Doctor Strange is the most likely to be straight up "magic", but possibly GOTG and Inhumans may also provide an alternative to tech. We'll find out this year, with GOTG, and possibly soon with the origins of Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.

I shouldn't have singled out Doctor Strange, but I'd still like something different from tech.

Also, "alien tech = 'magic' = tech" is only true for certain aspects of the Thor films. It is still recognized that magic may be a thing, mainly through Frigga (and Odin and Loki).

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#9173: Feb 13th 2014 at 10:26:05 AM

Armless Tiger Man should be a villain.

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stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#9175: Feb 13th 2014 at 10:34:43 AM

Is it wrong that I'm getting Farscape vibes from the Got G stuff?


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