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Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM
It pretty much, by this point. The Marvel brand can pretty much sell anything at this point as long as the movie itself is watchable.
The more pressing potential stumbling block for more diverse properties is that very few female and minority characters are solo leads, and Marvel's solo films thus far have almost all been about solo characters rather than ensemble ones.
edited 15th Jan '18 12:30:11 PM by comicwriter
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I think that they will do more team up movies in the future anyway. It is the next logical step. And they are already do it to a certain degree.
But I guess we can now be sure that Black Widow will survive Avengers 4...not that there was ever any doubt. Marvel would be crazy to kill off one of their few female heroes at this point.
The Lego sets for Infinity War have a nice Netflix easter egg. The closest we are likely to ever get to an actual crossover.
edited 15th Jan '18 12:56:30 PM by comicwriter
@Unsung MCU Ironman is based on the Ultimate version, who’s solo book sold very sell. So he wasn’t really based on B-list material.
Funny but not helpful
A comic selling really well in the 2000s doesn't mean much for mass awareness
Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
You know, I'm aware that Ultimate Iron Man's origin story was revised...but I'll admit, it's weird to say that this was based on that version, considering what I've seen of how they had originally envisioned that character.
edited 15th Jan '18 5:43:12 PM by KarkatTheDalek
Oh God! Natural light!
Basically.
It's rare for an average comic these days sell more than what, 300 thousand units at the most for the absolute most popular ones? Really not a lot of people.
Before the MCU really became big, I had virtually zero knowledge of comic books, and the only superheroes I had heard of were Superman, Spider-Man and Batman. So speaking for non-comic-book-fans - even characters that comic books fans consider well-known, like Iron Man or Wolverine or Captain America, were essentially obscure to the general public before superhero movies became big-time moneymakers.
Iron Man made money because people liked it and it had good word of mouth, not because the general public was aware of the the existence of a comic book character called Iron Man.
edited 15th Jan '18 6:11:28 PM by Galadriel
Destroyer of Worlds
There was one day we were on set and were doing this scene that's in the trailer where we're all running to battle, you know, all of us are on set and it's like forty superheroes. I look to my right and I see Tom Holland and Dave Batista. I see them in the corner and Tom is literally the size of Dave's leg, I don't know what they're talking about but Batista jumps up and does a kick-punch move and I was like 'Yo, you're about to kill him!'
Evans
That day was really fun, I know the day you're talking about, that day was [snickers]...you'll see. It was a great day with a lot of great people.
40 heroes.
“They’re going to be massive,” the 34-year-old tells Postmedia Network during an interview for this week’s fact-based war drama, 12 Strong. “I finished literally two days ago and I looked at (directors) Joe and Anthony (Russo) and said, ‘I don’t know how you guys have gotten this far and I don’t know how you’re going to hold it together and complete this thing, but my hat’s off to you.’
“This is one of the biggest things in film history and to be a part of it was just incredible. I think what these characters are about to face — with Thanos — there’s been nothing quite like it. There are 76 cast members or something like that. I think what people are going to be excited about is what I was excited about and that’s Thor meeting the Guardians and Iron Man meeting Doctor Strange.”
Also Chris Evans loves Winter Soldier suit and dislikes the Avengers suit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/7qnefp/even_captain_america_himself_doesnt_like_his/
edited 15th Jan '18 6:49:10 PM by MadSkillz
"You can't change the world without getting your hands dirty."
So I read a synopsis of Infinity War mentioning reality wiping. Makes me wonder if they are going to soft reboot the universe.
RANDOM SHMOE: Hey, Iron Man! I thought you were played by Robert Downy.Jr! How come you're suddenly 20 years younger and slightly less white?
TONY: Infinity stones, son!
edited 15th Jan '18 7:57:15 PM by kkhohoho
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
For the comic or the movie (haven't read the former)?
Because if it's the former...maybe try to avoid posting spoilers here?
Oh God! Natural light!
Talking about the official film synopsis.
edited 15th Jan '18 8:13:16 PM by ManOfSin
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
Oh? Where did you find that, then?
Oh God! Natural light!
“As the Avengers and their allies have continued to protect the world from threats too large for any one hero to handle, a new danger has emerged from the cosmic shadows: Thanos. A despot of intergalactic infamy, his goal is to collect all six Infinity Stones, artifacts of unimaginable power, and use them to inflict his twisted will on all of reality. Everything the Avengers have fought for has led up to this moment – the fate of Earth and existence itself has never been more uncertain”
edited 15th Jan '18 8:39:24 PM by ManOfSin
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
Thanks.
None of that seems to mention reality-wiping, though. There's "inflict his twisted will on all of reality", but that's not necessarily the same thing.
Oh God! Natural light!
First official image from Ant-Man & The Wasp
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edited 16th Jan '18 12:23:56 PM by comicwriter
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
Hmm, I don’t know...the Wasp costume seems a little too muted with its colors.
What do you guys think?
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I mostly hate the red highlight one them....and yes, after having a long discussion if there are even yellowish colours on it or if it is too grey, I am not sure about the colours either. But I guess it is a matter of lighting.
So....does that mean that Pym industries has a new lab?
That or they shrunk down to go in the imploded one.
...Yeah, it's presumably a new lab.
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
While I guess I have to admit that the Wasp's traditional colors don't always transition well to live action, X-Men First Class accomplished it in a pretty decent way. Some yellow highlights at least would've worked.
edited 16th Jan '18 1:15:10 PM by KnownUnknown
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
As others have said, Wasp could use a little more yellow on hers (she's called WASP after all). Still I like the overall design of the suit (and it's kind of neat that the design on her torso looks kind of insect-y as well).
it's a living
I'm kind of hoping it looks better in motion, with the light hitting it in ways that don't really translate well to still shots. Still no effects shots of her wings yet, I'm noticing.
I mean, the suit itself looks awesome - I like it a lot better than Ant-Man's, even - it's just colored blandly.
I really want to see some clean shots of Ghost. He's - or she, in the movie's case, which I'm pretty jazzed about - got one of my favorite designs, at least among Iron Man's Rogues Gallery.
edited 16th Jan '18 1:52:37 PM by KnownUnknown
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Thus said...there is a good chance that in Marvel's hands the X-men will end up the diverse property it should be.