Marvel Cinematic Universe

Thor's existence technically proves alines exist so theoretically the Skrulls could fit in just fine and they're just a species the Asgardians never interacted with.

Also, I see no reason to attempt to shoehorn anyone else into an already solid and well done foundation for the Marvel Movie Universe. We'd be lucky to be able to add Black Panther, Doc Strange, and Antman/Giantman. They'd fit but it's then a matter of having too many primary characters cluttering p a movie, which was sort of my argument against a "Go all in" Justice League movie without a similar foundation the Marvel Movie Universe has.

Spider-man is entirely possible to fit in and I'd love to see him around but even I can tell when I think it's be hard to fit him in. With the way Tony's been established in this 'verse, it's hard to include Reed unless he came out of nowhere, or was an up and coming like a teenager or young adult.

I'm meh on Antman/Giantman. I just don't find them very interesting.

Actually, I could sort of see a way to fit the X-Men: set them in the 60s and 70s. The conflict, secret and open, over mutant rights was fought and won decades before the present. Now, the issue is mostly a done deal: mutants are people too. You'd need some fast footwork to explain why there hasn't been a mention in the prior movies, but there are ways.

1. Mutant population numbers are not actually as vast as sometimes portrayed, possibly with the birth rate of new mutants having declined since the nuclear testing hayday

2. A lot of the most trained and powerful mutants resulted from the peak of conflict, and have since died or retired. Fewer replace them, what with the conflict having largely ended

3. SHIELD Psi-Division.

I wonder why will happen to this shared universe in a few years. Once the actors are too old for their roles, if they don't do The Other Darrin, what happens? Nobody is sure if this is an ongoing thing, or will conclude sometime. I think if it does go on, it should avert a comic book sliding timeline, and have characters age and die as time goes on, to be replaced (well, not replaced...) by other characters not used yet. But I would prefer it ends at a certain point, to be inevitably rebooted a few years (hopefully more than a few) later.

Downey signed a four-picture deal, so expect him to renegotiate for his weight in gold after Iron Man 3.

Chris Evans and Chris Hemsworth also signed on for four. Samuel L Jackson signed for an unprecedented nine, so he still has three to go after Avengers. They're such small roles, though, that I don't know what would make him turn down indefinite future ones.

After that, who knows? The movies might stop making money.

Personally, I think that they're better off without the X-Men and Spider-Man. I've always seen them as at the fringes of the Marvel universe and when they aren't potrayed as such there tend to be problems. If they could they'd at least try to put Spider-Man in an Avengers movie, and Spider-Man has never worked as an Avenger.

But really, they aren't going to get the X-Men rights back this decade, and by that time they'll probably realise it's to late to incoparate them. Spider-Man depends how well the reboot does, but I can't see it lapsing for a while.

As for the FF I don't see a problem. Reed is a genius scientist, we haven't seen him before because he's not connected to any super heros, he and the others get powers and all the other stuff. The Marvel universe is filled with lots of genius level characters, makes sense the films would be too.

This is what they can do if they get the rights to the X-Men.

1. In the 80's or 90's mutants got civil rights.

2. Some mutants work in S.H.I.E.L.D.

3. Most mutants live in Genosha.

4. A bunch of mutants were killed off during the mutant-human war during the 80's or 90's.

The X-Men always worked best without the Fridge Logic that the greater Marvel Universe brings, and the non-mutant superheroes seem more special when they're not bogged down by hundreds of other superpowered people.

There's so much diversity and potential within the gigantic X-Men roster that one really doesn't need the rest of the Marvel Universe, anyway. There's no real potential for stories there.

Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four, on the other hand, could fit right in, since Spider-Man is a fairly low-key member of the Superhero community, just swinging around NYC most of the time, and the Fantastic Four could be an emergent group of super-astronauts, or astronauts who just got back from an expedition to the N-Zone or whatever and were therefore unavailable. (Also, why do the adaptations always brush aside the fact that they're super-astronauts, the coolest thing possible?)

edited 8th Aug '11 1:36:10 AM by MatthewTheRaven

The only main reason I would want the x-men in there is so that Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver would be in the avengers movies.

Also the Fantastic Four being Super Astronaunts would be awesome and they could add Daredevil aswell.

I know She Hulk is a tad much, but I'd love to see Jen Walters, Attorney At Law make an appearance.

Because the directors and writers keep wanting to do a family sitcom, that's why. *hate*

Family comedy with the FF has potential to work awesomely, with the right casting and writers. It's part of why so many consider The Incredibles to be the best Fantastic Four movie never made.

The problem is that the directors insist on making that the foremost emphasis of the movie, missing out on the entire adventure aspect. Note that in The Incredibles, most of the comedy came as part of the deconstruction/reconstruction, as everyone was trying to take on roles they weren't really meant to take. If the dramatic climax of The Incredibles involved Bob coming to like and appreciate his new job while the kids actually make friends at their new school, nobody would remember the movie half so fondly.

According to Disney, two unknown Marvel movies are scheduled for release in 2014.

I hope its not the Guardians of the Galaxy. The Marvel Universe is only still young, lets not start bogging it down with the bad cosmic stories. I hope it's Black Panther to be honest. Bout time we had him on the big screen. Just don't have Tyrese Gibson play the part.

I can't be the only one who noticed a green spot in Africa on the map during Iron Man 2. Black Panther or at least Wakanda is foreshadowed.

Not to mention the fact that Howard Stark used Vibranium for Cap's shield in Captain America. Where does Vibranium come from??? huh? huh? :P

And that's why not having X-Men is good.

Because Wolverine replaces Vibranium with Adamantium.

Farveau straight up said that spot was a reference to Black Panther.

I saw Captain America, but because I brought up several things in that movie's thread that I'm too lazy to bring over to this one (it's my birthday; don't make me do work) please check from the point linked forward. I'll be posting more in this thread from now on.

Anyway, I specifically brought up that I'm curious to see how they work in T'Challa.

edited 8th Aug '11 8:33:57 PM by wanderlustwarrior

I've been thinking about films Marvel can make for this universe, like ones for Black Panther, Hawekeye, and Luke Cage and Iron Fist as the Heroes for Hire. Klaw would probably be Panther's baddy, Taskmater could work as one villain for Hawkeye, but who could go against Cage and Iron Fist? They don't have many notable villains...

Cage's first archenemy might work well, his name was Diamondback wasn't it? I've always thought the origin in Power Man was very film like, if they do a standalone Cage film I expect they will follow that closely.

Alternatively they could just use somone like Taskmaster. He really isn't that connected to Hawkeye, he's one of many general Marvel villains. Also I doubt Hawkeye will get his own film.

I've heard rumors of it, and as an agent of SHIELD, Hawkeye could have been tasked with taking down Taskmaster, a dangerous mercenary. But Taskmaster only wants the money, so there may have to be a Man Behind the Man. And Dianondback is pretty connected to Cap too. Iron Fist and Cage could potentially gave their own movies and then one where they team up. Bit Terry Crewes must play Luke Cage..

Sorry to Terry, but there's one Old Spice Man (the best one) that deserves a role:

"Mustafa is a comic book fan, with Spider-Man and Batman among his favorites. His knowledge of Doctor Doom's first name accidentally helped him win $47,000 on The Weakest Link for a question on the first name of Doctor Frankenstein; the money helped him pursue his post-restaurant goal of becoming an actor. Mustafa named his daughter in reference to the Batman character Harley Quinn. He has expressed interest in playing comic book superhero Luke Cage and has subsequently been cast as Cage in a Marvel web short styled after his Old Spice commercials. He is also a fan of the animated series The Venture Bros."

Yes. The Old Spice Man as Luke Cage must occur.

Marvel, you have to give him the role.