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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! I'm editing this OP and pinning it to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

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  • While mild digressions are okay, discussion of the comic books should go in this thread. Extended digressions may be thumped as off-topic.
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[Edited by Fighteer]

    Original post 
Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#47101: Nov 26th 2015 at 3:33:05 PM

"The skill and shield help a good deal but overall stat-wise, he's not that impressive for a meta."

Have you seen what MCU Cap can do?

He isn't peak human. He's super-human. Hell even in the trailer he was able to stop a helicopter from moving.

Also most of the hits Buck and Cap were dishing out on Iron Man were with the Vibranium Shield and Bucky's possibly Vibranium metal arm.

edited 26th Nov '15 3:33:56 PM by MadSkillz

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#47102: Nov 26th 2015 at 3:42:09 PM

Say, what happens if Tony just grab the shield with one hand and fire the other hand's repulsion into Steve's face?

I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#47103: Nov 26th 2015 at 3:51:02 PM

[up][up]I wish we'd retire the term "peak human" because it basically translates to "Whatever the plot requires but we're still gonna pretend it's humanly possible."

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#47104: Nov 26th 2015 at 3:53:02 PM

Holding a helicopter in place while it's taking off is pretty ridiculous.

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#47105: Nov 26th 2015 at 3:54:03 PM

You'd be surprised what even normal human can do when we turn off those limits our brain impose that keep us from hurting ourselves.

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#47106: Nov 26th 2015 at 3:55:10 PM

Of course, most people would mulch their bodies in the process... but still, impressive stuff.

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#47107: Nov 26th 2015 at 3:56:54 PM

Even THAT strength has limits, you know. And halting a helicopter is far above that level, even if you are a...uh, "peak human."

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Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#47108: Nov 26th 2015 at 4:06:23 PM

Holding a helicopter in place while it's taking off is pretty ridiculous.

I recall Biscuit Olivia doing it. [lol]

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#47109: Nov 26th 2015 at 4:16:17 PM

Then again, he did do an overhead flip and threw a motorcycle he was riding.

Hmm...not sure if those require around similar strength or not.

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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#47111: Nov 26th 2015 at 4:19:15 PM

"It would be so clinched if Loki pulls a Heroic Sacrifice in the Infinity War, allowing The Avengers to win against Thanos. XD"

You mean, like what happened in Siege?

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#47112: Nov 26th 2015 at 4:23:33 PM

-shrugs- I don't read the comics so sure, why not.

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higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#47113: Nov 26th 2015 at 5:28:03 PM

Cap dropkicked that one guy so hard he flew across the air for a good while in the Civil War trailer.

That's pretty strong.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#47114: Nov 26th 2015 at 5:29:57 PM

Yeah if you're not the Hulk that's what Marvel Cinematic Universe Super-Strength looks like.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#47115: Nov 26th 2015 at 5:48:40 PM

One neat detail I noticed in the trailer is that it looks like Iron Man's helmet can now fully retract inside the armor.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#47116: Nov 26th 2015 at 5:59:54 PM

I am wondering if they've run out of avenues to improve the armour in.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#47117: Nov 26th 2015 at 6:06:10 PM

[up][up][up]Iron Man still caught an SUV (w/ family inside) thrown at him.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#47118: Nov 26th 2015 at 6:07:45 PM

Catching things seem a bit easier to film. I'm referring to punching things mostly.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#47119: Nov 26th 2015 at 6:11:44 PM

[up]Can Cap punch straight through a concrete wall?

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#47120: Nov 26th 2015 at 6:11:49 PM

Also, Tony's wearing his Power Armor. Which can obviously do a lot of things like carry heavy objects.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#47121: Nov 26th 2015 at 6:21:50 PM

[up][up]No, I don't get why you'd bring that up.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#47122: Nov 26th 2015 at 6:23:19 PM

[up]Iron Man casually does that in IM 1 (to reach a terrorist on the other side).

edited 26th Nov '15 6:23:47 PM by nervmeister

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#47123: Nov 26th 2015 at 6:23:42 PM

When did this turn into a "who's stronger" match?

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#47124: Nov 26th 2015 at 6:27:31 PM

That's not what this conversation is about, although I still don't actually know what nervmeister is getting at.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#47125: Nov 26th 2015 at 6:34:23 PM

[up][up][up] While wearing Power Armor.

edited 26th Nov '15 6:34:35 PM by higherbrainpattern


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