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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! I'm editing this OP and pinning it to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

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[Edited by Fighteer]

    Original post 
Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#39526: Jul 29th 2015 at 1:52:47 PM

Actually there is a very simple reason he would know that: he already knew Scott's identity and story, probably by doing research based on what he learnt happened at the Avengers Headquarters. By that logic he had to know where Scott's daughter lived

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#39527: Jul 29th 2015 at 1:53:14 PM

Maybe pool party place was close to where Cassie was.

Paxton wasn't headed in that direction anyway since he was taking Scott back to jail. Again. He had to turn around when he got radioed.

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Watchtower A Wannabe Writer from Beyond Thunderdome Since: Jul, 2010
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#39528: Jul 29th 2015 at 2:14:26 PM

The taser also knocked Scott unconscious. Most likely a good amount of time passed before he woke up in Paxton's car.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#39529: Jul 29th 2015 at 3:56:51 PM

So, just got back from the movie. It was a lot of fun. I saw it with my mom, who said it was a lot better than she thought it would be (she says that a lot). She thought that Cassie was really cute, her jaw was on the floor when Cross killed Frank, and she was also kind of upset when Anthony died.

I told her about comic!Hank's...thing, and she thought it was a good idea that they didn't use that. Interestingly, she thought that Scott was lying when he said that he couldn't remember anything from the Quantum Realm so that Hank wouldn't risk his life trying to save Janet. I don't know if that would hold up upon closer analysis, but it's an interesting idea.

edited 29th Jul '15 3:57:33 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from a handcart heading to Hell Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#39530: Jul 29th 2015 at 4:30:38 PM

Yeah the Anthony death was brutal, that had me feeling pretty emotional. The ants really were a Hypercompetent Sidekick in general, they went for wave tactics to distract during the final fight on the train set and I loved how after the bombs were set they make sure to evac all the ants as part of the plan.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#39531: Jul 29th 2015 at 7:21:11 PM

Trusted friends don't bring things back after they say they will. A thief lurking in the shadows doesn't get to make that promise.

Speaking of which, does Fury still have Coulson's Captain America trading cards?

My headcanon is now that he's been holding onto them all along and telling Coulson they were lost in the fight Loki.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Victin Since: Dec, 2011
#39532: Jul 29th 2015 at 7:32:48 PM

[up][lol] That's mean. But I'm not sure Fury would have been able to meet with Coulson in person since everything went to shit with SHIELD.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#39533: Jul 29th 2015 at 7:37:38 PM

[up] Agents of SHIELD season 1 spoiler They actually did meet in the season 1 finale of Agents of SHIELD, which was chronologically after the events of Winter Soldier.

Victin Since: Dec, 2011
#39534: Jul 29th 2015 at 8:39:04 PM

Uh, I've watched both seasons so far XD I just didn't think Fury had the time to give him the trading cards back. It's been a while since I watched the first season, I could be misremembering it.

Also I only watched The Winter Soldier recently. I didn't know it happened before the finale. Though it does seem obvious now that I think about it.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#39535: Jul 29th 2015 at 8:46:02 PM

[up] There was the time after Coulson and Fury confronted Garrett (and then Garrett died) and before Fury made Coulson Director. They were all on the plane and Coulson was yelling at him about bringing him back to life. I suppose Fury could have returned his cards to him then, but probably not.

edited 29th Jul '15 8:46:24 PM by alliterator

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#39536: Jul 29th 2015 at 8:53:20 PM

"I sold them to finance the new helicarriers. Which your hero blew up. So. Yeah."

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#39537: Jul 29th 2015 at 9:24:20 PM

Wasn't there that time Nick Fury personally visited their plane before the whole HYDRA thing because they blew a hole in the side of it?

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#39538: Jul 29th 2015 at 9:26:17 PM

Oh, yeah, that was at the end of the second episode. "I have the authority to downgrade your ass to a Winnebago."

Man, I would love it if next season the agents have to travel around in a Winnebago since they blew up their plane.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#39539: Jul 29th 2015 at 11:37:37 PM

Fitz was already designing something new...which is kind of fitting. After two seasons of origin story (that's what it basically was, right?) it is time for a change.

TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#39540: Jul 30th 2015 at 7:10:32 AM

Actually there is a very simple reason he would know that: he already knew Scott's identity and story, probably by doing research based on what he learnt happened at the Avengers Headquarters. By that logic he had to know where Scott's daughter lived

Why would Cross have any knowledge of what transpired at Avengers HQ?

Regarding Fury meeting with Coulson

They also probably met offscreen at least once in season 2, given that Coulson refurbished the Helicarrier Fury rides into Age of Ultron for him.

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Gingerbread Since: Jan, 2013
#39541: Jul 30th 2015 at 7:48:24 AM

Because Hydra are monitoring the Avengers. Learn about a guy who can shrink that broke in to the place and go "A guy that can shirk!? Hey, wasn't that Cross guy developing/selling something like that. It must have been a demonstration of his technology." So they go to him "breaking into the Avengers was way cool - how much?" and Cross goes "...Yes. Yes that was me" and since like it wasn't him, he starts investigating the incident.

Watchtower A Wannabe Writer from Beyond Thunderdome Since: Jul, 2010
A Wannabe Writer
#39542: Jul 30th 2015 at 7:58:21 AM

I can't remember the exact line, but I remember Cross explicitly mentioning having caught wind of a scuffle going on at Avengers HQ.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#39543: Jul 30th 2015 at 8:21:46 AM

Damn those civilian Avengers employees and their Twitters!

Watchtower A Wannabe Writer from Beyond Thunderdome Since: Jul, 2010
A Wannabe Writer
#39544: Jul 30th 2015 at 8:24:58 AM

Dude, one bad tweet can cause shit-tons of damage IRL. Imagine what happens when you've got a bunch of superheroes and supervillains running around. Shit be crazy.

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#39545: Jul 30th 2015 at 9:14:12 AM

Speaking of crazy shit, here's another Spider-Rumor.

This time, it's a possible Spider-Man casting list!

Yeah, yeah, I know the drill. Take this with a very, very large grain of salt.

(Then again, no Gwen Stacy? Dang it.)

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#39546: Jul 30th 2015 at 9:15:55 AM

Perhaps we will get best love interest then

Debra Whitman.

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#39547: Jul 30th 2015 at 9:39:05 AM

Also, I should've said earlier, there's also something about a weird homemade costume...thing that even I find to be dubious.

Barefooted Spidey? Yeah, not buying it.

Watchtower A Wannabe Writer from Beyond Thunderdome Since: Jul, 2010
A Wannabe Writer
#39548: Jul 30th 2015 at 10:06:01 AM

[up][up] Knowing Marvel, assuming they do go the romantic route for Spidey but don't have Gwen or MJ, the next one up would most likely be Carlie Cooper.

.....please for the love of fuck don't do that.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#39549: Jul 30th 2015 at 10:07:17 AM

For rumours like this you need a whole salt mine. But theoretically, I wouldn't mind them not including Gwen Stacy. It is too early for that. Honestly, I would love it if they would do a Spider-man movie without any romance whatsoever.

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#39550: Jul 30th 2015 at 10:28:09 AM

"Latino Review"

Nope, not bothering even looking at the rest.


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