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INUH Since: Jul, 2009
#76: Aug 14th 2011 at 5:18:50 PM

Here's how I picture an analysis page looking.


A Troper

Heading of the first subject the troper wants to cover on this page.

Some analysis.

Heading of the second subject the troper wants to cover on this page.

Some more analysis.

A troper with a name alphabetically after that other guy's

Heading of the subject the second troper wants to cover.

Some analysis.
Et cetera.

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BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#78: Aug 14th 2011 at 5:56:22 PM

Wait, why do they need to be labelled by troper? We have lots of analysis pages working fine right now in a more essay format. Best example I can give is Analysis/GunnerkriggCourt.

CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#79: Aug 14th 2011 at 6:01:25 PM

Yeah, I think essay-format would be best, without worrying about who writes it.

Although Works analyses are different to Trope analyses.

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INUH Since: Jul, 2009
#80: Aug 14th 2011 at 6:03:11 PM

The thought was that if two people have different interpretations on the same thing, it would make separating them easier. But other ways of doing that would probably be better.

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CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#81: Aug 14th 2011 at 6:05:18 PM

I would prefer it if we seperated them by title rather than who wrote them. It keeps the focus on the analyses, rather than allowing the writer to get an inflated ego at seeing how many times his name is attached to analyses around the place.

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INUH Since: Jul, 2009
#82: Aug 14th 2011 at 6:07:33 PM

That works. So it'd be more like


A Subject

Title of the first essay on the subject.

Some analysis.

Title of the second essay on the subject.

Some more analysis, by a different person or group.

A subject with a name alphabetically after that other one's

Title of the essay on the subject.

Some analysis.
?

edited 14th Aug '11 6:07:49 PM by INUH

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CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#83: Aug 14th 2011 at 6:08:43 PM

Yes. I think that works better.

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CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#84: Aug 14th 2011 at 6:12:53 PM

Although come to think of it, I think the Trope analyses would be formatted more like:

Trope to be Analyzed

Trope Analyses, including the things listed in my above post.

Trope Analyses, listing things like-

How the trope is commonly portrayed in media

How the public views this

Etc etc. Stuff that doesn't really fit into an explanation of the trope, but is still valid when trying to understand the trope.

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INUH Since: Jul, 2009
#85: Aug 14th 2011 at 6:19:00 PM

Hmmm...would it be necessary to have a big header over the whole section, given that it's on its own page?

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CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#86: Aug 14th 2011 at 6:21:12 PM

The other pages all do.

Like,

Analysis: Face Heel Turn

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CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#88: Aug 14th 2011 at 6:24:08 PM

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

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#89: Aug 14th 2011 at 7:48:48 PM

I'm thinking that having them (actual analysis essays, at least) divided by troper might not be a bad idea. I know I'd hate like hell to spend a bunch of time writing a nice detailed analysis and post it and them come back later and see that it's been chopped to hell and gone; or deleted and replaced; or edited into something else entirely by someone who disagreed.

Trope background and history, not so much.

edited 14th Aug '11 7:50:08 PM by Madrugada

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INUH Since: Jul, 2009
#90: Aug 14th 2011 at 7:50:36 PM

Yeah, that's a concern.

On the other hand, it looks like there might be collaborative efforts.

Maybe they shouldn't be divided by Troper, but should name their writer or contributors in the title?

edited 14th Aug '11 7:50:56 PM by INUH

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juancarlos Faith in the self. Since: Mar, 2012
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#91: Aug 14th 2011 at 7:51:33 PM

The problem is that if they're collaborative efforts, then who exactly gets the credit? Every writer? Every editor?

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INUH Since: Jul, 2009
#92: Aug 14th 2011 at 7:52:21 PM

Good point. I dunno.

There has to be some way to handle this.

Maybe a blanket rule against screwing with analyses you disagree with? If you have a different opinion, write your own.

edited 14th Aug '11 7:53:07 PM by INUH

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juancarlos Faith in the self. Since: Mar, 2012
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#93: Aug 14th 2011 at 7:56:50 PM

That begs the question of whether we will allow replies and how so?

I mean, say I write an analysis, and then you disagree and wanna make an analysis of your own. How do we distribute them? It's obvious they have to be in the same folder, for example.

Also, is there's gonna be a character minimum and maximum?

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#94: Aug 14th 2011 at 7:58:50 PM

I see no reason to have a maximum, unless it gets so long the page breaks — unlikely.

A minimum wordcount might be good.

I'd suggest organizing them so that they're alphabetized by overall subject, and within the subject, putting them in the order of publication.

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juancarlos Faith in the self. Since: Mar, 2012
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#95: Aug 14th 2011 at 8:01:43 PM

I was thinking of a maximum because readability issues and to make anyoone who posts be more succint, but I think it being a suggestion rather than a fullblown rule would work better.

I can agree with that layout.

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INUH Since: Jul, 2009
#96: Aug 14th 2011 at 8:03:45 PM

With regard to readability, it's all about the paragraph breaks. If we make a set of guidelines, we might want to mention that conciseness where possible is a good thing.

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juancarlos Faith in the self. Since: Mar, 2012
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#97: Aug 14th 2011 at 9:57:19 PM

Goodie

Another question, how...um...valid would be metafictional analysis?

such as, the study of market, appeal and the like?

edited 14th Aug '11 9:57:42 PM by juancarlos

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#98: Aug 14th 2011 at 10:07:36 PM

I'd think they'd be entirely valid, but necessarily seperate from the regular analysis.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#99: Aug 14th 2011 at 11:27:37 PM

What do we do with analysis that was cut from the main page?

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INUH Since: Jul, 2009
#100: Aug 14th 2011 at 11:29:14 PM

Um...good question.

Got an example so I can see what sort of stuff it is?

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