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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#1301: Jul 3rd 2015 at 3:05:28 PM

The Walking with Dinosaurs movie was better with the DVD option to cut out all the annoying voice acting.

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#1302: Jul 3rd 2015 at 3:13:08 PM

Dinosaurs should not be voiced unless you're really going with a parrotosaurus. And then it'd better sound something like a parrot and not a person.

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#1303: Jul 3rd 2015 at 3:28:55 PM

[up][up][up] The WWD movie is to the TV series what The Last Airbender was to the original cartoon.

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#1304: Jul 3rd 2015 at 3:50:37 PM

Even if we have a dinosaur as the protagonist we still need human characters for there to be any dialogue.

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#1305: Jul 3rd 2015 at 3:54:34 PM

Xenofiction needs no dialogue. Raptor Red is an awesome book, and there's not a spoken word out of any characters whatsoever. Because they're all dinosaurs. In the original Dinosaur time.

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#1306: Jul 3rd 2015 at 3:56:44 PM

Oo, I like that book

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#1307: Jul 3rd 2015 at 4:05:44 PM

Jack Horner attaches himself to a movie as a consultant. Robert Bakker rolls out an entire world based on his findings. I think I know which one I respect a bit more, unless Horner's actually done Xenofiction. I've never looked him up.

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#1308: Jul 3rd 2015 at 4:15:01 PM

The Walking with Dinosaurs book was very good. :) I'd recommend a box of tissues for the ending, though. :(

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#1309: Jul 3rd 2015 at 4:15:26 PM

[up][up] Not that I know of, but his actual scientific work is generally more rigorous than Bakker's.

edited 3rd Jul '15 4:15:44 PM by Spinosegnosaurus77

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#1310: Jul 3rd 2015 at 4:16:02 PM

Bakker's The Dinosaur Heresies is on my reading list.

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#1311: Jul 3rd 2015 at 4:21:45 PM

[up] Greg Paul's Predatory Dinosaurs of the World is more my speed, but both are good.

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#1312: Jul 3rd 2015 at 4:37:21 PM

I respect Bakker more because he was very chill about a very petty take that.

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#1313: Jul 3rd 2015 at 7:21:44 PM

Talking about the supposed scientist in Lost World that wound up taking a swim up a waterfall and turning it red?

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#1314: Jul 3rd 2015 at 7:30:52 PM

Yeah

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#1315: Jul 3rd 2015 at 7:31:14 PM

Considering I got a D in bio lab because the teacher said I "didn't write scientifically enough" I tend to have more respect for fiction writers who build worlds than for scientists who study this one. Actually, for lots of big and little reasons, I have a higher affinity for the controllable worlds of fiction than for this wreck of a thing we call real life.

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#1316: Jul 4th 2015 at 8:15:51 AM

[up][up][up]I thought that was a take that to Horner, considering that if I recall correctly the character had previously stated that the T. rex was a scavenger, a claim Horner has very vocally supported (even though we have found T. rex bite marks on partially healed bones, indicating that it did go after living animals. Likely, like most large predators, it would eat both living and dead animals depending on what was most convinient).

I just saw the movie today, and it was clearly superior to the 3rd one, but I prefer the first two over it. Got to admit, when the original movie's theme started playing (although they missed an opportunity to play "journey to the island" when the boat was shown approaching the island), when we saw the old visitor center and when they used the original raptor calls and T. rex roar I got all giddy.

Not veyr fond of the genetically modified dinosaur plotline. There are plenty of awesome dinosaurs so there's no need to make one up. Also, if Jurassic Park existed, I would have paid the admission to see dinosaurs, not genetically engineered monsters (I'm fully aware of the irony in hat statement; all the dinosaurs in the park are actually genetically engineered monsters based on dinosaur DNA, with gaps filled with random genetic material, and egineered to look like what the designers though dinosaurs should look like. However, the genral public wouldn't know that). The using dinosaurs as weapons plotline was also pretty stupid. Unless you can train Velociraptors to use guns, they wouldn't really be of much use in military action. And if you could, you really shouldn't because you just gave Velociraptors guns! Now we're all doomed!

Would've wanted the raptors to have feathers, but they did kind of justify it by having Wu admit that a lot of the dinosaurs look very different from the way they should look, due to them engineering them to look "cooler". Still, considering how much the original film did to update peoples' perception of dinosaurs, this would have been a perfect change to ingrain the image of feathered dromaeosaurids to public conciousness.

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#1317: Jul 4th 2015 at 9:09:42 AM

Horner was a consultant on the film and Spielburg I think? threw in a thinly veiled cameo of Bakker as a favor to Horner.

Bakker thought the whole thing was hilarious because the t-rex was clearly predatoring, which was apparently their main source of contention.

Of course, the t-rex being a predator in the Jurassic Park movies/books has less to do with paleontological theory and more to do with rule of cool and rule of murder beasts.

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#1318: Jul 4th 2015 at 9:37:23 AM

I think Horner also suggested using Spinosaurus for JPIII because "Spinosaurus is a hunter and Tyrannosaurus is a scavenger".

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#1319: Jul 4th 2015 at 9:39:57 AM

HORNERRRRRRRRR

I mean, pretty much absolutely everything was wrong about the Spinosaurus in JPIII.

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#1320: Jul 4th 2015 at 2:31:20 PM

The thing looked cooler, and that was about it.

One point about that whole training scene with Owen harassing Claire: These are Jurassic Park dinosaurs. The first movie made a point that they're NOT SUPPOSED to reproduce, so unless the new park has been making the same fuckups as the old one . . .

OWEN YOU STUPID PIECE OF SHIT STOP HARASSING YOUR BOSS. Your dinosaurs DON'T fuck, and you don't belong bringing up the subject at work. Dipshit.

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#1321: Jul 4th 2015 at 2:38:46 PM

Actually, T. Rex is closer to the turkey vulture.

But the turkey vulture is a scavenger, not a killer.

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#1322: Jul 4th 2015 at 2:46:24 PM

Headcanon: the spinosaurus is so inaccurate because it was an early attempt at the Indominus. Wu was trying to do the same thing at JP as he ended up doing at JW.

It's mentioned in JP 3 that the spinosaurus wasn't on In Gen's list of dinos they had made. Spinosaurus was a secret project.

edited 4th Jul '15 2:47:19 PM by TobiasDrake

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#1323: Jul 4th 2015 at 2:48:19 PM

Sounds about right to me.

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#1324: Jul 4th 2015 at 4:34:03 PM

[up][up][up][up]Owen's line in that scene was about how the animals don't know they're grown in a lab, so they have all th insticts they'd have in nature; to eat, hunt and reproduce. All the dinosaurs in the park are female so they can't reproduce, but the instict to do so would still be there.

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#1325: Jul 4th 2015 at 5:05:26 PM

Joy. You'd think they'd have some way to turn that off in a world where they could recreate dinosaurs. They don't need those damned instincts to start with unless males are going to come into the picture.


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