Terminator: Genisys

It never ceases to amuse me how ready people on the internet are to dismiss a movie simply because a few minutes of deliberately out-of-context selections of footage in an initial-release trailer, or assume that they know everything about the movie because of said trailer.

But, hey, it's cool to be cynical, to see the worst in everything based only on the most superficial of evidence, I guess.

Well a trailer is typically meant to display the core concept of a film, and make it seem appealing to the public. If a person doesn't like what they see in the trailer, there's a fair chance they won't like what they see in the film. Obviously that's not a 100% rule or anything, but I think it's a reasonable deduction to make.

Personally I'm on the fence with this film. I'll have to see more before I decide if it's worth seeing.

Yeah, it's the entire job of the trailer makers to make the movie look as good as possible—to make the movie look better than it actually is, if necessary. So if the trailer doesn't impress, it's a reasonable assumption that the movie won't be any better.

It may still be a wrong assumption...

@Mars 444: Emilia Clarke's line delivery seemed alright to me. How is it in any way atrocious?

The resemblance between Emilia Clarke and young Linda Hamilton is sensational! Perfect casting choice!

She sounded too childish. I think making her a girl instead of a woman was a mistake. I can imagine Lena Heady saying "Come with me if you want to live!" with much more forcefulness than Clarke managed.

And I guess it doesn't help that some of her exposition was... not very well constructed, but for the most part that wasn't every impressive either.

I'm rather surprised that this doesn't seem to be an ordinary reboot.

So this is what I wanted Terminator Salvation to be - a twisted timeline. I'm interested in how this will pan out. There seem to be "two Arnold-terminators", or maybe that one's already been reprogrammed, so the T-1000 has been sent back to take care of Sarah Co...

...okay, to put it simply, Kyle Reese will fight alongside the T-800.

It's like ninjas teaming up with pirates to fight vampires.

edited 5th Dec '14 7:16:56 PM by FOFD

I see nothing wrong with this concept.

OK, maybe it's just a bad cut or shot, but a car hitting a bus like that will not cause the bus to be thrown into the air and flip around. Just no.

edited 5th Dec '14 10:58:37 PM by edvedd

I think they're copying that one action shot from The Dark Knight. Which was even less realistic.

So, Terminators age? Because they take great care to show a T-800 fresh out of the mold (which is, of course, Arnold's 1980's head digitally superimposed on a bodybuilder just like Salvation), and Arnie of now, who has monkey tits.

Maybe they do. It's a good way of blending in if your mission may take a while longer than standard - if you need to kill a mark at a future date than you get inserted in for example.

@Meta: But at least it looked plausible. This one doesn't at all. I'm willing to cut 'em some slack for editing, but if that's how it actually happens...

If I well recall, from an early synopsis, the T-800 aged himself up to blend in with humanity, because he was sent to protect Sarah Connor when she was still a child and people would start wondering why the fuck isn't her tutor aging like a normal human being, which would draw attention to him.

So he aged himself blend in better.

It's a cool shot that I hardly think is all that out there in a series about a robot vs human war where both sides keeps sending troops back in time to win the war before the soldiers on either side have even been born.

If they're covered in human flesh that's designed to completely emulate the real thing, I see no reason why it shouldn't age.

It's actually canon that Terimator flesh does age. It even heals from minor damage.

So I could be right then.

...I can't believe I'm actually excited for Terminator 5.

...So in this continuity, Skynet decided to try to kill Sarah Connor before they tried to kill Sarah Connor, only to be stopped by a Terminator sent back to save Sarah Connor.

I wonder if Skynet will ever just decide to stop sending robots after Connors and instead send a Terminator back in time to stop the Terminator that was sent back in time to stop the Terminator that was sent back in time to kill John/Sarah Connor.

Presumably that's why Skynet lost the war; it ran out of troops on the ground becasue they'd all been sent back in time.

How many have there been, assuming all the films and the TV series are in the same continuity?

Okay, Salvation doesn't include travelling before the war, so five in the movies (counting Arnies hijacked by the Resistance)...

The SCC has four, I think.

Are the Sarah Connor Chronicles actually still canon to this one?

No it is not.

Should we get a mod in to rename the thread?

Couldn't hurt.