Duplicate of SufficientlyAnalyzedMagic?: Fantastic Science

These two tropes, Fantastic Science and Sufficiently Analyzed Magic, seem to describe more-or-less the same thing: the study of magic in a scientific manner. If there is a difference, I'm not seeing it. (If it exists, it should probably better described.) Note that Fantastic Science links to Sufficiently Analyzed Magic — don't read too much into that, because I added the link before realizing the similarity was so strong.

I see a few options here:

• clarify the differences (if we find that there are sufficient differences).
• Merge them. If we do this, I think Fantastic Science is a clearer name, but SAM has a few more wicks (75 vs. 52) and a lot more incoming links.
• Rename/repurpose Fantastic Science to Fantastic Scientist, since that's what the description mainly talks about, and I don't believe we have that trope.

Other suggestions, clarifications or whatnot welcomed.

edit: I was also worried about Sufficiently Analyzed Magic being confused with Magitek, since it has to specifically mention that it's not the same thing, and both tropes have identical page quotes, but a quick spot check of wicks showed no evidence of confusion.

edited 31st Jul '11 8:02:05 PM by Xtifr

It looks like it's actually the supertrope. Take the example of the basilisk - researching the properties of its stone gaze would be Sufficiently Analyzed Magic, while studying its biology is "merely" Fantastic Science.

Can you phrase that in the form of a pair of laconics?

Fantastic Science: Fantastic elements studied scientifically.

Sufficiently Analyzed Magic: Magic studied scientifically.

edited 31st Jul '11 9:54:19 PM by BioTube

Hmm, ok, that sounds plausible. I'll leave this open for a little while in case others want to disagree or offer other suggestions. Otherwise, I'll try and tweak things to make it a little more clear.

Sounds about right to me — magic included among fantastic elements, but not the same.

edited 31st Jul '11 11:46:09 PM by Stratadrake

I'm going with Bio Tube's supertrope/subtrope version. The pages themselves seem to support that.

edited 1st Aug '11 7:33:40 AM by shimaspawn

I just edited them to support that, since nobody seemed to be disagreeing. :)

Laconic added to Fantastic Science, tropes properly interlinked, we can probably close this.

edited 1st Aug '11 8:37:28 AM by Xtifr