Two questions, then. Is the container with the design flaw worse than no container? Is there a way to make the container without that design flaw? As far as I'm aware, the answer to both is "no" (at least from the perspective of the ninjas scared of the giant chakra monster natural disasters, not so much from that of the Beasts themselves), so it's reasonable that jinchuriki would be used even with the flaw.
Also, I'm not sure it's so very glaring. Normal humans undergo catastrophic failures if they're cut in the right places. Stick some gut armor on your jinchuriki if you're concerned.
edited 1st Aug '15 8:24:36 PM by rikalous
Having a container regardless is of course better. I don't know.
It still seems glaring to me, like a grenade that if you drop it and it gets scratched in the wrong place it will blow up and release a demon. Although this glaring flaw is only glaring if there's a way to fix the flaw, which there may not be and that's why jinchuriki are usually kept in the village out of harms way and have a guard to make sure they don't run with scissors.
Mainly it seems like such a problem because it radically changes the way jinchuriki are fought, they now have a kill switch. And putting armour over it only advertises where that switch is.
edited 1st Aug '15 8:41:36 PM by Ironypus
I would imagine that not all Jinchuuriki have their seals on their guts.
It'd make much more sence to put it in a place they're less likely to be cut in. Like their backs.
Also circumvents the problem of the pregnant belly deforming it, too.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariB's is on his arm, right?
It wasn't that the seal itself was deformed but that the pregnancy drew power away from it which coupled with the stress made it way more likely to break.
edited 1st Aug '15 9:09:43 PM by Ironypus
Unless it's impossible to stick it anywhere else, because of anatomy and chakras and so forth.
@Rikalous: Remember how Naruto faced his hidden doubts at that waterfall that manifested in the form of another Naruto? Apparently, people call the other Naruto Yami Naruto, or sometimes Dark Naruto or Evil Naruto. Occasionally, when a fic writer notices that their Naruto is really out of character, they'll tag the character as Yami Naruto instead of Naruto. Sometimes they'll make a vague attempt at justifying why the Naruto in the fic is actually Yami Naruto instead of Naruto, and sometimes you can't tell except for the tags and Naruto being massively OOC.
IANCE: Thing is, I'm well aware of how those five aren't that good. I say they're good by comparison. Since they've got many thighs I like in them but also have many flaws that hold them back.
I still find the taking the 'kissing terminator' situation Up To Eleven hilarious though.
And yeah they follow the basic formula, but at least aren't totally shit at it.
re:"damaging a seal doing stuff to it": That logic is why I've always wondered why they didn't just surgically remove the skin bearing the curse mark from Sasuke and Anko.
Maybe if you do that the seal dies not with a whimper but a bang.
Or maybe seals are more than just the ink on the skin but need the ink on the skin to function right, so if you remove the seal, it malfunctions and kills them or does something freaky... or freakier than what it's intended to do.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariSurely not, or else Naruto would be going about in full armour all the time, both to stop him accidentally scratching his stomach too hard on something, and to disguise where exactly his seal is so other people won't just aim for the gut every time.
I presume that on child delivering, the whole stress, hormones imbalance and mother- child physical, metaphysical separation playing a lot hell with seals. Caesarean simply isn't really feasible, if it even considered at all.
I mean, caesarean started as method to save baby from dying mother.
I think the healing-factor might get in the way as well.
You can do a cesarean section a bit early, you know, and avoid the birth putting all that strain on the seal.
If hers was the same as Naruto's, it really wouldn't be strong enough to cause problems.
I really only asked because the thought came to me and provided a fuckhuge problem for the story I was writing. Either a cesarean section is unfeasible because cutting the seal ruins it which means I have to scrap a shit ton of stuff about how jinchurki are trained and fought, or it was feasible and the story logically shouldn't have happened because it's a super easy workaround that lets Minato and Kushina live.
Or it could be that procedures to ensure (relatively) safe delivery for jinchuriki hasn't been adapted/ researched for caesarean technique. It mostly works so far until the whole fiasco with Tobi. If it's not broke, don't fix it, they says.
Chakra works around physical and metaphysical boundaries, so it's fair to assume that some important bonds like mother-fetus connection can deeply affects it.
If I;m the writer, I'll definitely write it like that.
That still doesn't gel with me, the fox almost escaped Mito and if Minato was shitter at seals it would have escaped Kushina. And they should already know if cutting a jinchur-
Naruto's skin does all peel off a few times.
You are now thinking of Kushina with baby Naruto jutting out from just below her stomach glaring at a doctor who didn't quite do his job fast enough.
Consider this: what if the seal is not the ink part? What if the seal is actually a separate chakra circuit that works off or modifies the host's own chakra circuit; or in cases, a completely separate chakra circuit? It would regenerate at the same time as he host's chakra pathways regenerate (so cutting off a bit of skin wouldn't do anything to the seal), and the "ink" part is actually a mark, a reflection of the real seal?
What if the seal is not a physical thing, but a conceptual thing? Or, if it makes more sense to you, what if the seal is not only the three-dimensional array of ink, but a more complex construct that extends from the ink when the creator applies their chakra, and then extends as the ink when the host gets damaged?
Rather than smart, I'd prefer to be wise. It would let me be silly more often.That's close to what I suggested.
The seal is not the ink, the ink is merely a representation of it in the physical world, but the seal does need the ink to function correctly. Sort of like a controller.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariI don't understand why they could just use anesthesia and make the cesarian while at it if the seal was such a problem.
Oh yeah, because Kishimoto applied Ruleof Drama to that arc like a morphine addict. Never mind Naruto having hair, everything happens the day he was born! Oh my God ,how tragic!
You claim that God is opressing us, but I see you opressing others without needing a God.The possibilities that in meta-sense, you probably right, child delivery is a very complicated matter, even today where our medical knowledge has reaching leaps and bounds compared with the day where caesarean only authorized on dead woman.
Even today, most doctor only arranges caesarean section if normal delivery is too risky for the mother/ child. Anaesthetic administration is one hell of arrangements, especially if it's involving babies.
I assume similar problem could probably exist even with medical chakra, especially if we consider that metaphysical bond (like between mother and her baby) actually matters in Naruto-world.
I suppose I could always go the cruel Irony route and have the surgery that could have saved her life be invented short weeks after her death, in hidden Cloud, which A then sold to Hiruzen as a slap in the face.
*glances at your moniker*
The cruel Irony method does seem most appropriate.
Actually I heard that the position women are typically placed in to give birth is wrong by the mere fact that they have to push. At least that's what I've heard.
That's what I was thinking, after all if you damaged an ordinary storage seal it would obviously foul up the works, but it seems like such a glaring design flaw on a jinchuriki.