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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
The Latest: Federal lawsuit filed to block Wisconsin recount: http://bigstory.ap.org/f0a3999a748d4c57a89962db68fdaef1&utm_source=android_app&utm_medium=copy_to_clipboard&utm_campaign=share
Trump supporters are filing a federal lawsuit to stop the Wisconsin recount.
If Trump actually won anyways then what are they so afraid of?
"These crybaby, sore-losers are trying to steal the election! We can't let that happen."
edited 2nd Dec '16 8:06:59 AM by Mio
Because they'd rather crush any semblance of doubt, or because the recount would show how effective their voter suppression tactics have been and open them to a lawsuit for discriminatory voting laws (since striking down voter suppression laws on the basis of "they're racist as fuck" worked in North Carolina to the point where now they have to re-elect their entire legislature because the courts found the system so screwed up).
Seriously? I knew there were issues wth the governor race but didn't hear it went that far.
Looks like it is
edited 2nd Dec '16 9:39:52 AM by sgamer82
The election results as they stand show the effects of suppression clearly enough. The optics of trying to stop the recount are mindbogglingly terrible, and.. well, frankly, I don't see how this is a case they can win, legally, so it can't be about squashing doubt, either. I can see only three possible motives for this :
1: Belief that the election was rigged in Trumps favor.
2: Belief the recount will be rigged against him.
3: Reflexively suing anyone that does anything that might be construed as a challenge.
All three options have awful implications
edited 2nd Dec '16 10:40:20 AM by Izeinsummer
Here's hoping that the rest of the world manages to find solutions to climate change, cause its clear that American leadership (both on this issue, and probably in general) is dead and buried.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.and also middle-to-high class whites, who see themselves as low-class, thinking that anything but white supremecy will endanger them.
If it weren't the Donald doing it, I'd say good; the China-Taiwan spat is one of those pieces of historical idiocy that we've put up with for way longer than makes any sense. Do we stand for democratic institutions always, or only when it's politically convenient to do so? (That is a rhetorical question.)
Maddowblog: Pro-Trump pundit argues, "There's no such thing as facts.", noting that, for Trump supporters, the things he says are truth.
edited 2nd Dec '16 2:05:06 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Only if the media actually reports on this. Actually, even if they don't Breitbart is probably going to make up some bullshit about how the idea that eating rat poison will kill you comes from bizarro Islamic conspiracy.
edited 2nd Dec '16 2:26:39 PM by AlleyOop
This is what centuries and decades of Anti-Intellectualism has led to...what can one say.
There is that line in an old Italian movie, Accattone by Pier Paolo Pasolini:
''Today you sell your ring, tomorrow your watch, next week your chain and in 77 days you won't have eyes to cry with."
The Taiwan Call probably has to do with this:
Trump wants to expand business empire to Taiwan, creating another potential conflict of interest
The sad part is that Taiwan actually has a very good President, Tsai Ing-Wen, the first woman President in Taiwanese history, a social democrat and pro-LGBT activist.
She's been fighting against the KMT (Chiang Kai Shek's brutal party regime, that was US-backed and arrived there and purged and massacred native Taiwanese). The KMT these days are aliied with...the CCP (The Horseshoe Effect has never been more aptly demonstrated) because the rise of a native Hakka-born woman on a social democrat platform offends their vested interests and traditions.
Tsai Ing-Wen has actually tried to form a middle path with China, emphasizing Taiwanese interests without raising the spectre of "independence" (which even the Dalai Lama has tried to do, but the Chinese won't listen). Now Trump is unthinkingly upsetting that.
The consequences are similar though; as I edited in, either case involves the opposition deliberately sabotaging the government's ability to function for political gain, and particularly in a presidential democracy, this sort of deadlock creates an escalating feedback loop that has historically heralded major political crises such as civil wars and dictatorships. sabotage the Trump administration for eight years, and you shouldn't be surprised if a Maoist lunatic ends up running the government. Or perhaps a more accurate Mussolini analogue who comes from the left and governs hard right after seizing power.
edited 2nd Dec '16 8:02:07 AM by CaptainCapsase