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pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#127751: Jun 25th 2016 at 1:17:23 PM

The first job of a vice president is to deter assassins by being even more anathema to all of your enemies than you are.

I don't think that's ever been a thing in American politics. And it only became a Running Gag in regard to Dan Quayle.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#127752: Jun 25th 2016 at 2:00:44 PM

No matter who Clinton selects, they won't be as awesome as Joe "the Crazy Uncle of Democratic politics" Biden.cool

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#127753: Jun 25th 2016 at 2:02:58 PM

[up][up] Well, it worked, didn't it? With Quayle as the VP, no-one did assassinate Bush. QED.

TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
No longer a forum herald
#127754: Jun 25th 2016 at 2:12:05 PM

“Now look! That damned cowboy is president of the United States!”

Just in case you're wondering where the idea of the vice-president being assassination prevention for the current president came from.

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#127755: Jun 25th 2016 at 2:24:38 PM

The Secret Service: Canceling Vice Presidential promotions since 1865!

"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"
TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
No longer a forum herald
#127757: Jun 25th 2016 at 3:04:16 PM

Either you're not reading mine and/or his post correctly, or your memory of the history and order of the presidents is messed up. I cannot tell which. tongue

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#127758: Jun 25th 2016 at 3:07:12 PM

Na, he's reading the post correctly. McKinley was assassinated in 1901, after 1865. And the Secret Service was tasked in 1906 with Presidential security.

edited 25th Jun '16 3:08:50 PM by SeptimusHeap

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TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
No longer a forum herald
#127759: Jun 25th 2016 at 3:15:39 PM

Uh, if it was "since 1865", and 1901 comes after it, why would he have to remember McKinley since that time frame would include that? (Accusing him of forgetting McKinley only makes sense if McKinley was assassinated BEFORE then.)

I'm starting to think I am the only one who read the post correctly, now.

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#127760: Jun 25th 2016 at 3:19:51 PM

Because the post says "since 1865", as in there have been no VP promotions since then, when there has been.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#127761: Jun 25th 2016 at 3:20:05 PM

Eh? The Secret Service did not cancel Roosevelt's and Arthur's advents which happened after 1865.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#127762: Jun 25th 2016 at 3:23:59 PM

I don't mean that they've cancelled every "Vice Presidential Promotions", just that they've been canceling them as part of their overall mission.

"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"
pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#127765: Jun 25th 2016 at 5:48:26 PM

That's like the carved wooden figurehead detaching itself from the sinking ship and saying Screw This, I'm Out of Here!

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#127767: Jun 25th 2016 at 7:07:48 PM

Any other politician would be fucked over by their crazy base for falling back on a pledge like that. But Trump is basically immune to reality so...

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#127768: Jun 25th 2016 at 8:14:24 PM

Perez is the guy if we want a VP who'll fight for working families.

HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#127769: Jun 26th 2016 at 2:00:20 AM

[up][up][up] If he wins, he better not consider the Philippines a terror country.

desdendelle (Avatar by Coffee) from Land of Milk and Honey (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: Writing a love letter
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#127770: Jun 26th 2016 at 2:15:44 AM

OK, sorry, that's idiotic. The fact that, say, Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism doesn't make each and every Iranian citizen a terrorist.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#127771: Jun 26th 2016 at 6:03:28 AM

A comparison between the Brexit and Trump campaigns, especially in terms of how likely the success for the former means predicts a success of the latter.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#127772: Jun 26th 2016 at 7:10:41 AM

[up][up][up] Trump will probably be BFF's with Duarte,so I doubt he will consider the Philippines as "terror country."

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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#127773: Jun 26th 2016 at 8:56:43 AM

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What's helping, though is that Scotland may very well hold (and succeed) in another vote for Independence in the wake of the Brexit vote. As the article points out, while the measure to separate from the UK failed, 55-45, Scotland also voted to stay in the EU with a 62-38 split. So depending on how much of that 62% made up that 55% that voted to remain in the UK, a revote on the Independence issue might be drastically different.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#127774: Jun 26th 2016 at 9:10:00 AM

Trump is missing the point that a good number of the people who leave Iran will do so because they dislike the Iranian government.

majoraoftime Immanentizing the eschaton from UTC -3:00 Since: Jun, 2009
Immanentizing the eschaton
#127775: Jun 26th 2016 at 9:25:17 AM

Yeah, a lot of the Iranian diaspora is hostile not just to political Islamism, but Islam in general.


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