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Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#83576: Aug 27th 2014 at 4:40:43 PM

The Dreamer thing is hilarious is despite Rubio taking the hard right response, on the comments everyone still calls him a RINO.

I guess to the Republican Base, if you're not Ted Cruz and your position on Immigration is less than "Kill em All" you're a RINO.

edited 27th Aug '14 4:40:52 PM by Thorn14

BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#83577: Aug 27th 2014 at 5:41:44 PM

Really nice to see the veteran thing. It does make me wonder though, housing vouchers obviously help the homeless get a home. Does that also lead to better employment rates?

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Lost in Space
#83578: Aug 27th 2014 at 6:01:42 PM

One imagines that from a purely prosaic standpoint, having a home to live in and the concomitant amenities: showers, presumably regular food, and so on, improves one's ability to seek work. From an economic standpoint, if the homes are being paid for with tax dollars, they have a multiplier greater than 1 and as such confer a net boost to demand and therefore employment.

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Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
NOT THE BEES
#83579: Aug 27th 2014 at 7:42:07 PM

Also, people who aren't on the street tend to generate more demand than people who are. So it would very likely lead to better employment everywhere nearby.

edited 27th Aug '14 7:42:53 PM by Pykrete

deviantbraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#83581: Aug 28th 2014 at 2:35:52 AM

One imagines that from a purely prosaic standpoint, having a home to live in and the concomitant amenities: showers, presumably regular food, and so on, improves one's ability to seek work. From an economic standpoint, if the homes are being paid for with tax dollars, they have a multiplier greater than 1 and as such confer a net boost to demand and therefore employment.
IIRC, Utah ultimately did stuff with homeless people because while not only religiously good (Mormons, et al), they did the math, and it turned out giving safe housing and some aid to the homeless was less expensive than just constantly throwing them at Shelters and what not.

E.J. Dionne Jr. argues that the 2014 Elections, at least for Governorships, is a referrendum on the tea party rage machine, and whether people want to be politically angry or just get things working. And it looks like people after 4 years of rage-a-hol, want things working.

edited 28th Aug '14 3:41:11 AM by PotatoesRock

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
Gunpla is amazing!
#83583: Aug 28th 2014 at 7:47:53 AM

Get rid of that entire fucking police district and start over again. Holy shit.

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#83584: Aug 28th 2014 at 8:45:03 AM

Yeah, i think there's going to be a real demand for firings from the top of that department on down. The question is how much turnover will actually occur.

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#83585: Aug 28th 2014 at 8:51:58 AM

I wonder if it's possible to dismiss the police department by an initiative? "Every police officer in Ferguson is hereby fired and permanently blacklisted from ever working for this city again."

joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#83586: Aug 28th 2014 at 9:33:27 AM

My only concern is that there's going to be good officers caught up in it.

not everyone can be a dick. but God there's either a lot of them or they're VERY active about being dicks. I mean desecrating memorials? really?

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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#83587: Aug 28th 2014 at 9:45:43 AM

The article says that the neighboring municipality of Jennings dissolved its police force in 2011 for similar problems.

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#83588: Aug 28th 2014 at 9:49:32 AM

[up][up]Yeah, but when organizations get that corrupt, and people on the inside can't fix them, it's time to sweep clean with a new broom.

The country of Georgia fired its entire traffic police force some years back for acting like the Mafia. Problems with traffic went way down.

Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
NOT THE BEES
#83589: Aug 28th 2014 at 4:08:39 PM

Good lord, those assholes almost maced one of their own state representatives.

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#83590: Aug 28th 2014 at 4:24:09 PM

...please, somebody give me a better idea than "take some of that gear the army wants to dispose of and use it to arm and train the protestors." Please.

The police in Ferguson are completely out of control.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#83591: Aug 28th 2014 at 4:29:02 PM

Can't the National Guard go kick their ass?

Oh really when?
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#83592: Aug 28th 2014 at 4:30:41 PM

They already sent in the state troopers, which worked while they were there, but the moment the troopers left it was right back to business as usual.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#83593: Aug 28th 2014 at 4:35:41 PM

Drop the whole department and have the State Troopers or the National Guard stand in until they replace it.

Oh really when?
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A procrastination in of itself
#83594: Aug 28th 2014 at 4:37:14 PM

Disband the police force, institute martial law and order the national guard in to control (and if need be remove the police by force), send in federal troops to remove the police and maintain law and order.

That's three suggestions right there. As someone said, calling the police militarised is an insult to the military, the police aren't acting like solders, they're acting like extras playing soldiers in a bad action movie.

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#83595: Aug 28th 2014 at 5:00:45 PM

Whew. Thank you.

Yeah. I wonder if the first step would be for the protestors to actually start speaking against the police force as a whole and protesting in favor of a disbandment.

SKJAM Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#83596: Aug 28th 2014 at 5:06:02 PM

You may think that the Republicans love all banks but that is not true.

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#83598: Aug 28th 2014 at 7:17:57 PM

...I thought Texas judges were elected. What's in the water in their courthouses?

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#83599: Aug 28th 2014 at 7:48:43 PM

I've got a question about the Ferguson situation. I've been hearing that the community there is majority black, but the police force is over 90% white. How exactly does a situation like that come about? Did a lot of the police officers there transfer from other locale, or are there some factors at play discouraging black people in Ferguson from becoming police officers and/or discouraging the police department there from accepting them?

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#83600: Aug 28th 2014 at 7:52:05 PM

I don't think you have to live in the municipality to join the police force, is what it is.

One would think that would be a rule in police force hiring, moreso than other forms of local government hiring because the police force HAS to have the confidence of the local populace, or else you get... this. Make it so that they can only hire from outside the municipality if they are unable to find enough qualified applicants from inside. Surely plenty of Ferguson residents have experience as security guards or hold criminal justice degrees or something.


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