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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
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don't you mean "defend against it"
I meant defend DOMA, but yeah, words.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
@Fighteer: Actually, Shell was pretty active in the search for alternative energy as an anti-global-warming thing, but there simply wasn't enough money to justify it and politicians haven't been buying. They've now largely said "screw it, if the earth warms up, we'll sell air conditioning."
Anti-global-warming conspiracies can't be laid at the feet of the oil companies, but at the feet of ideologues. Since global warming would interfere with their ideological narratives, it does not exist. Oil companies are too busy making money to have much ideology.
V
Quite: If there's less money to be made in Oil, they'll move onto something else...
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
The only general fear is that by the time the warming problems become non-profitable, we'll have passed the tipping point.
Though market forces are the reason i'm not worried about peak oil. Once the oil starts to run out, that's when the move elsewhere will begin in earnest. Just hopefully a non-jarring transition when it does arrive...
Re: the lawsuit thing: Well, there is how, in some states, people are able to openly sell marijuana despite there being a federal law against it.
Wandering Jew
Rep. Paul Ryan: My Comments About Inner City Culture Were ‘Inarticulate’.
Reubin Askew, former Florida governor, dies at 85.
The EPA is lifting BP's suspension from receiving federal contracts.
edited 13th Mar '14 6:34:13 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Reading that article about BP, it sounds like the government is at least trying to make sure a repeat of deepwater horizon doesn't happen. Whether or not the measures work or not is a different story, but they're trying.
I'm actually cautiously optimistic about this deal
This is how BP repays us for overthrowing the Iranian government for them.
Shameful.
edited 13th Mar '14 7:39:16 PM by Canid117
"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des Ursins
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Can anyone help me find non-conservative, non-obviously cut versions of Obama saying to cut household expenditures to afford ACA at a Hispanic town hall meeting?
"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
Wandering Jew
I'm trying, but its pretty hard to find.
edited 14th Mar '14 2:46:46 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Thing with "peak oil" is that actual estimates of peak oil are always based on known/expected resources, but as oil prices rise due to scarcity, people frequently find ways to extract more oil out of stranger and harsher places. Obviously, there's an end to it at some point, but I think that end is a bit further down the road than we'd like it to be, and if anything, the end is going to look like natural gas or coal being articially converted to petrochemicals — unless we in large part stop our usage of oil well before that point.
edited 13th Mar '14 11:02:49 PM by GlennMagusHarvey
Wandering Jew
Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) to GOP: Let's ‘agree to disagree’ on social issues.
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
That was surprisingly intelligent from Rand Paul
Oh really when?
Lost in Space
It might be simple self-preservation, but Paul is a Libertarian and if he's being honest about his beliefs, he should support civil rights and other social freedoms as a form of negative liberty.
edited 14th Mar '14 12:26:03 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
Social issues are what keep the party alive, though. Most Americans do not buy into neoclassical economics, and the wedge issues are what keep the economic issues off the table for a lot of Americans.
Lost in Space
Right, so he's tilting at windmills. But don't tell him; the schadenfreude is delicious.
The thing is that the neoclassicists have done a very good job of selling the average American on "Debt Bad", "Inflation Bad", "Gold Good", "Free Markets Rah Rah", etc. Income equality is being sold right now as a populist measure, not as an economic one, because it's so hard to get real economics in the media.
When the GOP runs on an economic platform, it has a very good success rate, regardless of whether that reflects any kind of reality. It's when it runs on a social issues platform that it trips over its dick. Rand Paul knows this and is trying to remind the GOP that they aren't part of a mutual suicide pact.
edited 14th Mar '14 12:31:15 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Social conservatives are toxic in two ways. They appeal to a very specific and very rabid group of voters, thus poisoning the chances of anyone who doesn't chant the mantra, and they are profoundly toxic to everyone else, even people who broadly-but-shallowly agree with them. Even most pro-lifers had a "No. Just… No" Reaction to Todd Akin's "legitimate rape" thing, for example, or Mourdock's "rape babies are a gift from God."
So it's understandable if Rand Paul wants to try to shed them as far as possible, especially if he wants to appeal to the more sane social conservatives. Unfortunately for him, Paul may learn that doing this will make him come out like his father: respected by pretty much everyone, supported by no one.
Lost in Space
I don't really get that Ron Paul is "respected by everyone". He is the laughingstock of the hardline GOP, sort of like a grandparent who gets to say racist things at the dinner table, but that nobody willingly invites.
Fox News even tried to shut him out of the primary debates.
edited 14th Mar '14 2:18:01 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Wandering Jew
edited 14th Mar '14 2:42:28 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Lost in Space
Oh, Reid. I love you sometimes. Platonically.
edited 14th Mar '14 2:41:41 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
@Fighteer: They tried to shut him out because they were afraid of him making too much sense (which, when he's not talking about gold, he does). But point taken; he had more support among Democrats than Republicans.
Wandering Jew
edited 14th Mar '14 3:17:52 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Lost in Space
I got it. Ron Paul is the cranky, racist grandfather that Republicans won't go out in public with, but they can't keep him out of the house because their kids like him.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Gay Marriage. Apparently the fact that he didn't go defend it gung ho should get him sued or impeached.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick