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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#31226: Oct 8th 2012 at 12:11:47 AM

Triv: Whether a campaign HAS to fault Obama for everything is totally independent of the observed fact that THE campaign DOES attempt to fault him for everything.

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#31227: Oct 8th 2012 at 12:34:17 AM

By the way, is the US President allowed to vote in US Presidential Election?

Keep Rolling On
GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#31228: Oct 8th 2012 at 12:35:19 AM

Yes, as long as he is registered to vote.

I don't know what state he counts as, though.

Also, if the U.S. President is from North Dakota, I don't know if he needs to be registered to vote.

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
Gunpla is amazing!
#31229: Oct 8th 2012 at 12:35:19 AM

He's a citizen is he not?

It'd just be a formality anyway. One vote doesn't really matter.

Trivialis Since: Oct, 2011
#31230: Oct 8th 2012 at 12:48:42 AM

[up][up]Obama is an Illinois citizen.

GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#31231: Oct 8th 2012 at 12:51:14 AM

Then, assuming he still maintains an official primary residence to be in Illinois, he just needs to be be registered to vote at his residence in Illinois (and nowhere else).

PotatoesRock The Potato's Choice Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: I know
The Potato's Choice
#31232: Oct 8th 2012 at 4:31:07 AM

While I know the typical Republican talking heads are going to cry "Fraud enabling", I'm happy to see that this is happening:

(I can't post the links. Look up "Congressman opens voting rights probe of tea party group" and "Tea Party Voter Suppression Group Under Investigation For Possible ‘Criminal Conspiracy".)

Basically there's a Tea Party backed vote antifraud group called True the Vote. They claim to be supporting legitimate and fair voting, but they sued to have Ohio pull an overwhelming number of Homeless, Students, Trailer Park residents and African Americans from the registered voter rolls.

They also plan to have a lot of volunteers across the country watch people vote, and threaten, intimidate and challenge them for voting if they don't think the people are up to snuff.

I'd have more good faith on this if the Republican Party's talking heads, reps, and pundits didn't seem... I'm not sure the word here, I want to use here. I hate to be invoking Godwin's Law, but it seems like some of the elements of Fascism...?

edited 8th Oct '12 4:32:49 AM by PotatoesRock

Many were increasingly of the opinion that they'd all made a big mistake in coming down from the trees in the first place. - Douglas Adams
Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#31233: Oct 8th 2012 at 5:59:12 AM

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Welcome to america. Where loving freedom and america involves treating anyone not old and white as suspect.

Couchpotato20 Will kill you from Hell Since: Apr, 2011
Will kill you
#31234: Oct 8th 2012 at 8:20:18 AM

This is really discouraging V_V :

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/08/presidential-polls_n_1947777.html

What is it about telling 27 lies that American people don't understand? -facepalms-

"I don't give a rat's ass about going to hell. I guess it's because I feel like I'm already there." -Mugen
Lawyerdude Citizen from my secret moon base Since: Jan, 2001
Citizen
#31235: Oct 8th 2012 at 8:31:36 AM

If you tell a lie often enough and with enough conviction, people will start to believe it. Obama's campaign really needs to start calling Romney out on his BS instead of sitting back like a little bitch and taking it. The President needs to grow a frakking spine and stand up to this bully.

edited 8th Oct '12 8:31:47 AM by Lawyerdude

What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.
Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#31236: Oct 8th 2012 at 9:05:22 AM

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Its not as much americans at fault as it is basic human nature. Humans are biologically keyed to believe the guy who sounds strong and forceful in his convictions must be right unless evidence/personal belief blatantly says otherwise.

PotatoesRock The Potato's Choice Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: I know
The Potato's Choice
#31237: Oct 8th 2012 at 9:29:44 AM

Romney's Foreign Policy Speech is out, transcript wise.

He's saying basically

• We need more ships to build to go to war with. 15 a year, plus 3 Submarines.

• We need to challenge Putin and Russia for shadowing young democracies all over the globe.

• He wants the Libyans and or American forces to hunt down and deal with whoever killed the embassy members there.

• He plans to threaten Egypt with retracting aid if they don't do what we want.

• He plans to arm the Syrian Rebels.

• He also plans a more 'realistic' exit strategy from Afghanistan by the end of 2014.

• He also plans to use magic voodoo to somehow cause a Palestinian state to magically form side by side with Israel.

• Sounds like he wants to support Israel going to war with Iran.

edited 8th Oct '12 9:30:33 AM by PotatoesRock

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Karkadinn Karkadinn from New Orleans, Louisiana Since: Jul, 2009
Karkadinn
#31238: Oct 8th 2012 at 9:33:11 AM

As Jon Stewart noted in his recent debate, I would like to say that the whole point of democracy is that we DON'T GET TO CHOOSE OTHER COUNTRIES' FRICKIN' LEADERS.

War with Iran. Ugh. I think that might actually spark a serious revolt against the GOP if it went through.

Furthermore, I think Guantanamo must be destroyed.
RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
scratching at .8, just hopin'
#31239: Oct 8th 2012 at 9:35:34 AM

We need more ships to build to go to war with. 15 a year, plus 3 Submarines.
Are you high, Willard?
We need to challenge Putin and Russia for shadowing young democracies all over the globe.
He plans to threaten Egypt with retracting aid if they don't do what we want.
shadowing young democracies all over the globe.

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
Lawyerdude Citizen from my secret moon base Since: Jan, 2001
Citizen
#31240: Oct 8th 2012 at 9:41:09 AM

"Shadowing young democracies"? What does that even mean? That Putin is following around recently democratized nations and watching them go about their daily lives? Or does he mean that Putin is threatening the sovereignty of those countries?

What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.
PotatoesRock The Potato's Choice Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: I know
The Potato's Choice
#31241: Oct 8th 2012 at 9:45:18 AM

I think he's implying Putin is a reincarnated Stalin with a less awesome 'stache and hairdo, and using Russian power to corrupt newborn democracies into USSR... er, Russian satellite states.

Many were increasingly of the opinion that they'd all made a big mistake in coming down from the trees in the first place. - Douglas Adams
ch00beh ??? from Who Knows Where Since: Jul, 2010
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#31242: Oct 8th 2012 at 9:49:26 AM

I'd be okay with hunting down whoever killed the embassy people.

"Never let the truth get in the way of a good story." Twitter
Lawyerdude Citizen from my secret moon base Since: Jan, 2001
Citizen
#31243: Oct 8th 2012 at 9:53:36 AM

[up] Me too, but we don't need 15 more surface ships and 3 more submarines to do it. Work with friendly Libyans and use special forces to find them.

What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.
ch00beh ??? from Who Knows Where Since: Jul, 2010
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#31244: Oct 8th 2012 at 9:59:16 AM

yeah pretty much. You don't start a war when looking for fugitives.

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#31245: Oct 8th 2012 at 9:59:18 AM

What, exactly, are these extra surface ships going to do, Mr. Romney? Float around and look intimidating because America, Fuck Yeah?

edited 8th Oct '12 9:59:39 AM by Fighteer

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ch00beh ??? from Who Knows Where Since: Jul, 2010
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#31246: Oct 8th 2012 at 9:59:54 AM

well you know, they're in case Canada ever looks at us funny.

"Never let the truth get in the way of a good story." Twitter
PotatoesRock The Potato's Choice Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: I know
The Potato's Choice
#31247: Oct 8th 2012 at 10:07:06 AM

I assume, posture aggressively with a stern leer at Russia, which he appears to think is the U.S.S.R. Not that Putin's clean, but I don't think he's that much of a concern at this point, per say, either.

Oh. Right. Romney is also going to demand/force the entirety of NATO's membership jack up their military spending to 2% GDP, and stop slacking on it.

Many were increasingly of the opinion that they'd all made a big mistake in coming down from the trees in the first place. - Douglas Adams
TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#31248: Oct 8th 2012 at 10:29:56 AM

Romney has a cold war mentality. The Rocky IV reference Kerry made was probably the most insightful thing said all campaign. Romney thinks that you don't walk softly and carry a big stick, you run around swinging that stick like a crazy person, and people will back off because hey, you've got a big stick and you're a crazy person.

entropy13 わからない from Somewhere only we know. Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
わからない
#31249: Oct 8th 2012 at 10:33:09 AM

Challenge Russia? But China is the only one doing all the "shadowing". Oh, his buddies invested their money in China.

I'm reading this because it's interesting. I think. Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot, over.
TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#31250: Oct 8th 2012 at 10:39:20 AM

Pffft. Cold War mentality doesn't need facts.


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