The world needs less tears and more love

Are you trolling or are you really incapable of understanding what I meant?

I'm not fond of Government Drug Enforcement either. But as long as the drugs are not mandatory, subsidized vice beats banned vice in my book.

edited 4th Jul '11 11:24:35 AM by SavageHeathen

OK, I'm being a Grammar Nazi - but it is actually "fewer tears", not "less tears".

I can't disagree with the sentiment, but it's easier said than done. It would help a great deal if many of us were less selfish, but as I'm not planning to sell all I have and give it to the poor or something, you could say I'm not exactly doing much myself in that area.

Everyone being forced to take mood altering drugs all the time would just hide the real unhappiness, not solve it (plus the fact that there's no drug that's safe if you use it constantly).

Perhaps for you, not for everyone.

I, for one, do not want some weird Equilibrium/1984 stylized world where nobody is allowed to be sober and normal. It's not genuine if it's forced upon you.

Take your little flower induced hippy dream world, I'll take reality and earning my happiness with my own efforts, not relying on a crutch.(I'm not necessarily saying that drugs are bad, simply that using them to escape from the harsh realities of life on a regular, if not perpetual, basis is cowardly and not life.(Addiction would be a better word)

This is SO going to my sig

I agree with Barkey. If I can get happiness in two ways, one: popping a pill or two: going out into my garden and making something - I'm going to pick the second. I'm pretty sure that happiness is going to last longer and feel more genuine than the first.

If everyone is drugged into a stupor of pleasure all the time, when is anybody going to get anything real done?

^

I know right? How many people who are stoned out of their mind really feel like going to work?

If you love your job, then sure, but most people don't prefer going to work over staying home and doing as they please.

Just wait - someone is going to say "By then it won't matter, because we will have robots to do all the work!"

Nah, you need actual people to produce entertainment for the stoned masses.

edited 4th Jul '11 4:59:19 PM by SavageHeathen

But what about the people who don't have a creative bone in their bodies? The ones who can appreciate art but can't make it themselves? What are they going to do with their lives?

What they do now, sort paper clips and live lives of quiet desperation.

Join the military, it's what we're here for.

That and the fact that even if drugs get legalized, we won't be allowed to take them anyway. And even if most of us can take them, I'm not allowed to be on duty(as I'm armed) within 8 hours of taking anything that alters my mental stability or causes drowsiness. So no anti-depressants, no drowsiness causing cold medication, nothing.

So everyone else gets happy drugs except us. :(

edited 4th Jul '11 5:43:09 PM by Barkey

• thumped as pointless*

edited 4th Jul '11 5:38:29 PM by JosefBugman

Join the military? There will be robots for that too

Speak not such heresy, at least not for another 30 years when I'm fully retired.

Mm-hmm...

Y'all are thinking small: We could pretty much abolish jobs and mechanize all labor except creative work.

Well, robots could do menial tasks, so we could have communism built on the backs of mechanical slaves instead of working for a living.

Some people would produce entertainment (presumably while high). Someone has to, unless the lazy stoner society is gonna die of boredom.

As for the military: If we have communism and cheap happy drugs, who'd want to invade anything anyway?

And this thread has pretty much evolved into making random jokes roughly about the topic. That's what OTC is for, anyway.

edited 4th Jul '11 6:48:15 PM by SavageHeathen

I dunno, given the choice of being drugged into happiness or a .357 to the head, I'll take the bullet. I'd rather take the lows with the highs, than have a fucking flat-line heartbeat life.

That's cuz you're not taking a pill. If you were, then you'd be quite happy...at least enough to drown out the tiny you screaming on the inside.

my two pennies; getting high should be a luxury. Something you do for fun, same as going on a date with your boy/girl or polishing some project you have a hobby for. The moment it becomes the status quo, count me right the fuck out.

I like my liquor. But I sure as hell don't want to live my life drunk. I'd never get anything done, and the act of getting wasted would lose all its appeal as an escape.

When the escape becomes the reality, its time to but the drug down.

But what does happiness mean if you've got no suffering relative to the happiness?

Do you suffer at all? We have clean water, a lack of a huge number of diseases and ready access to electricity. I somehow don't think that a traditional household (where suffering is more present) is more pleasent for the people involved.

I would take a pill that induced happiness as long as it was legal. I would be on that like nobodies business.

And the happiness was all it did.

edited 5th Jul '11 1:17:47 AM by TheDeadMansLife

Josef, more than you'd believe, but honestly, my life story really isn't the point of this thread. I'll just say that if I was born in a cushy environment, I wouldn't be currently enjoying my current position as much as I am. I mean, holy shit, I actually own a laptop, that wasn't even looking possible, let alone likely, a couple of years ago.

Ahem, anyway, you'll find that all antidepressants have side effects that cause some rather major problems in the long run. Plus, I enjoy sharing my happiness with others, which means I'd prefer full clairvoyance, something that any mood alter drug already removes by way of its intended effect. Sure, we can all sit around popping pills and be dysfunctional in our own weird way thanks to the variety of pills out on the market... or I can be happy hanging out with you because I like you. However a pill that will make you happier with no side effects? Never going to happen, every form of medication, be it plucked direct from nature or the local pharmacy will have a list of intended effects and draw backs.

edited 5th Jul '11 1:52:13 AM by Ramus

Since I have been taking antidepressants for years, I'd like to see some evidence that they are so damaging.