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Doesn't Bosnia have to worry about the Serbs breaking off?
Well, that and:
- 45% unemployment (more or less);
- practically no major reforms have been carried out (on politics, the economynote , law, and so forth);
- the increasing emigration (70,000 people left the country last year - the population is 3,500,000 in total - also, most people there have at least one relative working abroad);
- And other stuff I'm probably forgetting now.
It'll take quite some time for them to be accepted.
edited 15th Feb '16 4:50:22 PM by Quag15
It also (because of the reasons you named) an attractive target for IS recruitment.
I understand why Bosnia wants to join, but frankly the current situation of the EU forbids any further enlargement. We have already too many fragile member states as it is.
Field Marshal of Cracked
ugh, are the colonials spouting about their broken system being better than one designed to actually work again?
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If you mean me, then no. And I'd appreciate if you didn't refer to me as a "colonial". I wasn't one of your settlers, feringhee.
edited 15th Feb '16 6:42:53 PM by FFShinra
Field Marshal of Cracked
no, that colonial who calls himself "Jack"
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Ah.
....Still, be careful who you refer to as colonial.
A procrastination in of itself
Bosnia has a variety of issues, it's stable but it's not doing well, if nothing else it needs reform in that it needs the rollback of EU powers to continue, as curt,y the EU still has the ability to override any law, election or appointment in the country, until Dayton is finished being implemented Bosnia realy can't move on.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
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The Guardian: Risk of EU breakup is real, Tusk warns ahead of crucial summit
David Cameron scrapped a debate at the European parliament on Tuesday and scheduled a meeting with Jean-Claude Juncker, president of the European commission, amid fears that a proposed settlement geared to keeping the UK in the EU could unravel because of growing European objections to the concessions promised to Britain.
“This is a critical moment,” Tusk warned. “It is high time we started listening to each other’s arguments more than to our own. It is natural in negotiations that positions harden, as we get closer to crunch time. But the risk of break-up is real because this process is indeed very fragile. Handle with care. What is broken cannot be mended.”
The stark warning from the former Polish prime minister, who presides over the EU summit on Thursday and who has been charged with drafting the settlement rewriting the terms of Britain’s EU membership, came as east European leaders staged a mini-summit in Prague to hammer out a common position on the proposed British deal.
Bohuslav Sobotka, the Czech prime minister, who chaired the meeting of four central European countries – Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, and the Czech Republic – said they had agreed a position but that he would not divulge it before informing Tusk.
Tusk is expected in Prague on Tuesday. “We will all have to decide together, and where we cannot and will not compromise on the fundamental freedoms and values,” Tusk said.
Cutting welfare benefits for east European workers in western Europe is the main sticking point threatening to wreck a putative deal negotiated since last July and fine-tuned over the past fortnight.
Analysis David Cameron stuck in middle as concern rises about UK deal across EU
Cameron’s central demands of freezing in-work benefits for four years for EU migrant workers in the UK and cutting child benefits for the same workers who leave their offspring at home have already been watered down in the draft agreement but remain unacceptable for the east Europeans.
They will accept the curbs, but only if they are limited to Britain and are not applied across the EU. This applies in particular to child benefits, which, at the moment, are not to be scrapped but indexed to east European levels.
The central European quartet will accept that for the sake of a deal with Cameron but do not want the UK special treatment broadened to apply uniformly across the EU. They also fear eventual knock-on effects in other areas of national social security systems in Europe.
It emerged that this is the key stumbling block for Cameron at the summit, although there are ample other issues still to be resolved.
“Indexation of child benefit will be at the core of the discussions” with Cameron on Tuesday, Juncker said.
The prime minister is likely to come under pressure to relinquish his child benefits gains for the sake of a deal on Thursday. To do so would invite howls of protest from dissidents within the Conservative party.
But EU leaders have no ability to bind the European parliament, which could block the secondary legislation that will be needed to restrict in-work benefits to EU migrants and to ensure that child benefit is paid at the rate of an EU migrant’s home country. Downing Street believes that a declaration by EU leaders, plus supportive statements from the main leaders in the European parliament, will make it difficult to unstitch a deal.
So, Britain leaving the EU could bring the whole lot down. It's notable of the role of the Eastern European four.
Keep Rolling On
The UK has always held back from the European Union. It has all sorts of exceptions to EU rules. Seriously, no country could leave the EU with fewer consequences than the UK. But the flip side is, if the EU is so fragile that a not completely commited country leaving makes it crash down, it would be a good thing to disband it sooner rather than letting it fall apart later.
My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare
Twas' a noble experiment while it lasted?
Well, there goes Finland. We were already circling down the drain, but the EU breaking up will effectively fuck this place up.
Another reason to pick up drinking and kill myself.
A procrastination in of itself
The U.K. might not be fully committed but it's such a big player that its small commitments in ways mean more than the full commitments of other countries, remember, we're 15% of the EU's GDP, 20% of the military spending and provide around 10% of the EU's budget.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
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The conspiracy theorists who have taken over Poland
Field Marshal of Cracked
oh fuck... how the hell can the Polish people vote for what are basically Nazi-lite? few countries suffered as badly as Poland under the Nazi's
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Because they aren't Russians. Or "communists".
This in addition to the developments of recent years making the perfect backdrop for the resurgence of the Nazi(-lite)s. Because the solution to European Union overreach is fascism.
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
HGW XX/7
>implying asking the Visegrad Four to take their fair share of refugees after years of prosperity bought by Euromonies is 'overreach'
If the EU is a vehicle for common solutions to common problems, then its worth doing. If its a source of post-Communist national welfare then it is not.
edited 16th Feb '16 5:29:15 AM by Achaemenid
Schild und Schwert der Partei
Visegrad four can form their own union and take the Baltics with them. They're nothing but a liability.
'Anti-semitism in Malmo made me quit' says The Bridge actor
Shameful Display
Clearly he is an evil racist Zionist.
HGW XX/7
Sweden really needs to deal with this. The hands-off approach to integration has patently failed.
Schild und Schwert der Partei
Party Crasher
What they need to do is start deporting bigots.
It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to go insane.
Like that's going to end well...
“Finland has lost its way on several issues”
