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pagad Sneering Imperialist from perfidious Albion Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#1: Jul 1st 2011 at 2:54:14 AM

This is interesting. What do our US tropers think about roundabouts as opposed to four-way stops and whatever else that you might use instead? Roundabouts are a very regular feature of roads here - especially for me, as I am from the Milton Keynes area (Milton Keynes is a city built in the 60's that uses a US-style grid layout but with roundabouts).

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#2: Jul 1st 2011 at 3:04:39 AM

They are evil incarnate.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#3: Jul 1st 2011 at 3:43:01 AM

Fortunately, the idiotic civil planner for our city knew to keep them off the main roads. The tend to only be there for entrances to parks and stuff.

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#4: Jul 1st 2011 at 4:17:35 AM

I prefer 4 way crossroads. Roundabouts make it easier for police to set up roadblocks without being seen.

edited 1st Jul '11 4:18:08 AM by SavageHeathen

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Linhasxoc Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
#5: Jul 1st 2011 at 4:28:08 AM

They've been taking over my hometown for some time now. Pretty much no one has a problem with the one-lane variety other than the fact that city planners seem to want to put them everywhere, but the two-lane variety seems to frustrate a lot of people. They're not bad if you know how to use them, but then other people seem not to; I've had too many people start entering the roundabout right as I'm going through it.

TheBatPencil from Glasgow, Scotland Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#6: Jul 1st 2011 at 4:32:51 AM

There's nothing complicated about them. Get in lane in good time, don't cut lanes, get your signal on, give way to the right (left in America, I guess) and don't try to be a hero.

edited 1st Jul '11 4:33:32 AM by TheBatPencil

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#7: Jul 1st 2011 at 4:59:44 AM

Roundabouts are not widely used in Colorado. They are hated and despised by both government and resident alike.

Unless you live in communist towns like Fort Collins or the People's Republic of Boulder, they are rarely found. And for good reason too, folks have a tendency to crash on those.

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pathfinder Swords are for wimps from Bearbrass Since: Nov, 2010
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#8: Jul 1st 2011 at 5:42:52 AM

Actually, there are indications that roundabouts, because of their 'unregulated traffic flow management' thing, makes people more cautious that they would be at a comparable intersection, and thus have "lower" accident rates*

  • Requires the assumption of familiarity with roundabouts, and driver situational awareness. Unfamiliar drivers tend to freak out, and predictably have a higher risk of crashing

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Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#9: Jul 1st 2011 at 6:00:33 AM

Roundabouts are pretty good. Unless its a sizable roundabout, you don't need to spend money on electrifying the traffic lights. It's not complicated. All you need to do is use your eyes and judgment.

@ Tom. How are roundabouts communist? In Soviet Roundabout, you decrease traffic accidents and improve traffic flow?

JosefBugman Since: Nov, 2009
#10: Jul 1st 2011 at 6:14:46 AM

Wow, I know they might be tricky if you are only used to driving in a straight line, but for petes sake guys lighten up.

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#11: Jul 1st 2011 at 6:22:35 AM

yeah, guys, lighten up. Try dealing with hook turns if you want to complain

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storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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#12: Jul 1st 2011 at 7:44:30 AM

If they are really better than intersections like all the statistics say, then I strongly support them. Traffic is a mess here.

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#13: Jul 1st 2011 at 7:56:05 AM

Meh, I don't like Roundabouts. We only have a few here at the entrance to neighborhoods and such, but I much prefer the four way stop. I'm a decent driver, but I'm always scared as hell that other people are not when I'm at a roundabout.

JosefBugman Since: Nov, 2009
#14: Jul 1st 2011 at 8:00:29 AM

... I have never seen an accident on a roundabout, you do occasionally have to trust that people are going to act semi-decently on them, but for the most part everyone knows what to do. Make sure that you don't go if a car is coming towards you, and watch the indicators.

Tangent128 from Virginia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#15: Jul 1st 2011 at 8:00:44 AM

I only ever encountered one, in DC. The exit I wanted was not very well marked, so I ended up leaving late and had to arc back around onto the right road after ending up on some back streets.

If they were signed better, they wouldn't be so bad, I guess...

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Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#16: Jul 1st 2011 at 8:04:17 AM

[up] Ah that's why they seem to suck over there. Here, there are signs EVERYWHERE on a roundabout. You cannot get lost on a roundabout. You also have a lower risk of actually getting killed on a roundabout, unless you're heavily intoxicated, where you think you can drive across the thing. You can't, just to make sure.

You can also put lovely statues and decorations in the middle. Which is nice. I always marvel at the statues and look at the pretty flowers. And then comment on the terrible arrangement skills of the Highways Agency.

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#17: Jul 1st 2011 at 8:10:05 AM

I'm just not a big fan of them in general, that and I see them so rarely that when I actually end up at one I start tarding out.

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#18: Jul 1st 2011 at 8:13:04 AM

Personally, I'm worried about the driving skills of everyone else on the road no matter where I am or what the conditions are.

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blueharp Since: Dec, 1969
#19: Jul 1st 2011 at 8:37:03 AM

Sounds like most people are saying "Oh no! They're different!" as their reaction.

pagad Sneering Imperialist from perfidious Albion Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#20: Jul 1st 2011 at 8:37:58 AM

Ah that's why they seem to suck over there. Here, there are signs EVERYWHERE on a roundabout. You cannot get lost on a roundabout.

Cannot get lost, certainly. Be blocked from changing into the lane you need for the exit you want by a bloody great articulated lorry on busy, multi-laned roundabouts? Different matter altogether.

edited 1st Jul '11 8:38:55 AM by pagad

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#21: Jul 1st 2011 at 8:41:12 AM

We have several roundabouts in the city where I work, and I quite like them. For one thing, it's waaaay better than waiting for a stupid light to change, and for two I've noticed that they're a lot safer (both for pedestrians and vehicles) than traditional 4-way crossings.

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#22: Jul 1st 2011 at 8:44:49 AM

I like roundabouts, assuming decent signage. My Mom likes to tell the story of when she and my Dad (in the late '50s) got lost on a roundabout due to unnaturally thick fog. What signs there were were too high up to read. They were stopped trying to find a way to get close enough to a sign to make it out when a truck driver stopped and asked if they knew which exit went to London because he'd been trying to figure it out for the last hour. [lol]

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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#23: Jul 1st 2011 at 8:52:24 AM

We have a couple roundabouts in my town. In my experience, the one flaw in them is the average midwest driver is a retard on straight roads, so give them a curved road and they act even more like the stupid drunk hicks they are.

edited 1st Jul '11 8:52:41 AM by Midgetsnowman

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#24: Jul 1st 2011 at 9:04:17 AM

And they mess up the nice pretty grid lays.

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#25: Jul 1st 2011 at 9:05:53 AM

[up] The nice pretty grid lays where everyone ignores stop signs unless there's a car coming the other way. tongue

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