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CDRW Since: May, 2016
#13226: Oct 5th 2012 at 8:06:17 AM

Wow. Remember that picture of the blacksmith that I said needed a fanfic? Well I put up a challenge on fimfiction and somebody wrote it in a single day, combining it with this picture, and it's awesome. I'll share the link later when I'm sure the author wants other people to see it.

edited 5th Oct '12 8:06:20 AM by CDRW

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#13227: Oct 5th 2012 at 8:08:33 AM

Those arm things look a lot like Tech Armor from Mass Effect.

Also, I think I'm going to put The Griffin War on hold for now, maybe work on my King Arthur crossover or my Fallout Equestria story.

Sessalisk from Wheeeeeeeee Since: Sep, 2011
#13228: Oct 5th 2012 at 8:44:50 AM

Pinkie awoke in a room full of talking horses. Their jaws moved up and down, and sound burst forth from their tender throats, but she only heard the succulent words of one.

His green hooves had once pranced on shamrocks, and his short stature had allowed him to perform cunnilingus on a mare without needing to bend over even slightly, not that he'd ever gotten the opportunity. Most mares were put off by his peg leg. That was, most mares were put off by the perpetual eructation of lasers flowing from the once-proud stump of his third leg. But if he wanted to, he totally could.

An adumbration clouded Pinkie's thoughts. She only heard the words of Larry:

"There once was a lepercorn named Larry,

"Whose friend Pinkie Pie was so merry,

"So he gave her some hugs,

"Motorboated her jugs,

"And then everyone contracted leprosy."

The lepercorn's leprous limerick set aflame their peripheral nerves and the mucosa of their upper respiratory tract, as was his special talent. Celestia had blessed him as a wee foal, tasked him to bring the divine gift of leprosy to every man, woman and child.

He was a lepercorn of the lord.

Okay, that's what I got so far. I just gave up on the cutie mark bit, and described other stuff about him instead. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make it funnier? Is the bit about cunnilingus too much? Should I make a pun about lingua with her cunning? Should I tone down the references to Thirty Hs?

edited 5th Oct '12 8:45:55 AM by Sessalisk

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Sessalisk from Wheeeeeeeee Since: Sep, 2011
#13230: Oct 5th 2012 at 9:06:11 AM

Read this fanfic. It's very short (1.6k words) and you don't need much, if any, knowledge of Harry Potter to enjoy it.

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#13231: Oct 5th 2012 at 9:10:12 AM

No, I was talking about what you wrote xD

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#13232: Oct 5th 2012 at 9:10:28 AM

Sess: Never read Thirty Hs, but given what I've heard of it, your ridiculous level was about on par with what I expected. tongue

edited 5th Oct '12 9:10:56 AM by KuroiTsubasaTenshi

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CDRW Since: May, 2016
#13233: Oct 5th 2012 at 9:12:33 AM

Here's the link to that story about the blacksmith.

@ Librarian: Okay. I'll try to finish going over the rest of your backlog chapters in the next couple of days so you can at least get those out there.

edited 5th Oct '12 9:12:38 AM by CDRW

Sessalisk from Wheeeeeeeee Since: Sep, 2011
#13234: Oct 5th 2012 at 9:16:04 AM

Oh. lol.

I just felt like doing homage to it, because there's another story, PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP, which tries to copy Thirty Hs, but it's absolutely awful and not entertaining to read at all. Mostly I think the writers just read the original, concluded that it was very random, and then thought that being really random must be what made it funny. They didn't realise that you also need really flowery prose, noun portmanteaus that are made just to sound funny, stupid puns, and the occasional obscenity (placed in spots where it would be the funniest and most effective).

I wanted to show that making something else like Thirty Hs CAN BE DONE.

edited 5th Oct '12 9:16:49 AM by Sessalisk

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#13235: Oct 5th 2012 at 9:20:16 AM

@Sereg: Will try to give chapter 2 a look when I have time. Real life brony friend is over and I'm finally getting around to styling my brushable ponies. tongue

And while I'm here Chapter 6 is done and awaiting any final feedback before I put it up this weekend.

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#13236: Oct 5th 2012 at 9:35:18 AM

@Sess: His cutie mark should be a rotting corpse.

@CDRW: Will take a look at that fic.

@JT: Cool. I'll have a look. Also, just to clarify, that's just the beginning of chapter 2.

Also, I'm eager to know how the opening of my sequel to An Earth Pony's Guide to Magic is turning out so far. I want to know if my...style choice works or if I should change it (you'll know it when you see it).

edited 5th Oct '12 9:58:34 AM by Sereg

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#13237: Oct 5th 2012 at 9:38:31 AM

[up][up]Don't forget the sense of timing. I'm sorry, but the pacing of what you just released lacks the (broken) rhythm of the original. You need to give it more oomph.

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#13238: Oct 5th 2012 at 9:42:41 AM

Noted! I have to skedaddle for now, but I'll see what I can do to make it even brokenier than it was.

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#13239: Oct 5th 2012 at 9:50:47 AM

One day a pony strolled down a path and came across a starving featherbare chicken.

“Pray feed me, sir," begged the chicken, “For I have been unable to find food of my own.”

The pony considered this for a moment and then opened his saddlebag.

"You are a foolish bird, chicken, for being unable to find food of your own but I will feed you. Then perhaps you may accompany me in my travels as a companion."

The wizard fed the chicken. When it had gained its strength it asked the pony’s name.

"I am Starswirl, a wise and mighty wizard!” proclaimed the pony. Being a foolish bird, it did not know the name, but was impressed nonetheless. The chicken accompanied the wizard onwards.

Soon, the wizard and the chicken came across a goblin, who hissed at the two. The chicken fled and hid.

The wizard confronted the goblin: “Let us pass, goblin, for I am Starswirl, a wise and mighty wizard!”

The goblin paled upon hearing his name and retreated. Soon the chicken returned.

“You are a weak and foolish bird for fleeing, chicken. I have dealt with the goblin and we may continue.”

Later the wizard and the chicken came across a diamond dog, who growled at the two. As before, the chicken fled and hid.

The wizard confronted the diamond dog: “Let us pass, diamond dog, for I am Starswirl, a wise and mighty wizard!”

As had the goblin before, the diamond dog paled upon hearing his name and retreated. Soon the chicken returned.

"You are a weak and foolish bird for fleeing, chicken. I have dealt with the diamond dog and we may continue.”

The wizard and the chicken continued on. Soon they came across a great snarling troll, who raised a huge club. Once more, the chicken fled and hid.

The wizard confronted the troll: “Let us pass, troll, for I am Starswirl, a wise and mighty wizard!”

The troll sniffed derisively. “I do not fear your name, for I do not know of you. You are nothing but a pony to me.”

With that, he laid the wizard low with a blow from his club.

Later, the wizard awoke to see the chicken staring down at him. The chicken spoke to the fallen wizard:

“You are a wise and mighty wizard, yet you are foolish enough to confront any dangers you may come across.

I am naught but a weak and foolish chicken, yet I am wise enough to flee them."

edited 5th Oct '12 9:52:35 AM by VeniVidiPony

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#13240: Oct 5th 2012 at 9:55:52 AM

[up]That's a Broken Aesop if I've ever seen one.

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CDRW Since: May, 2016
#13241: Oct 5th 2012 at 10:02:20 AM

Wait...it is? I don't see it. The moral that the aesop claims is along the lines of "don't fall prey to Small Name, Big Ego because somebody isn't going to buy your bullshit and call you on it." The events of the story seem to back that up quite well.

[down] That's a hell of a lot of extrapolation.

edited 5th Oct '12 10:08:24 AM by CDRW

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#13242: Oct 5th 2012 at 10:06:34 AM

I'd say so. If Starswirl the Bearded was as powerful as Twilight made him out to be the troll wouldn't even have had time to go for his club.

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#13243: Oct 5th 2012 at 10:13:12 AM

On the other hand, where do you think Star Swirl got his reputation? If his reputaion is undeserved or a case of Clap Your Hands If You Believe, it should have been implied by the narration rather than coming off as an ass pull. And, when you're with a companion that claims to be able to deal with danger with utmost confidence, you could stand by them, as you do not expect them to be defeated.

If there's a sound Aesop here, it's "don't place your confidence on people who might be liars", but it needs to be set up better.

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CDRW Since: May, 2016
#13244: Oct 5th 2012 at 10:17:56 AM

But it was implied by the narration. You will never ever see something as arrogant as

“Let us pass, goblin, for I am Starswirl, a wise and mighty wizard!”

and

“You are a weak and foolish bird for fleeing, chicken. I have dealt with the goblin and we may continue.”
repeated twice without showing anything to back it up without a comeuppance delivered on the third time. It's a storytelling pattern that's as old as storytelling itself. I saw the ending coming from a mile away. I was actually surprpised to see it played straight, it's so expected.

edited 5th Oct '12 10:19:26 AM by CDRW

PerpetualLurker Forever Scootaloo Since: Dec, 2011
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#13245: Oct 5th 2012 at 10:21:27 AM

I think the problem is that while the story works in a vacuum, it decides to use Starswirl the Bearded, who either wasn't a fraud, or hid it well enough. If this parable existed in-universe, then Starswirl wouldn't have been lauded as a great wizard, but as an egotistical fool.

edited 5th Oct '12 10:21:49 AM by PerpetualLurker

CDRW Since: May, 2016
#13246: Oct 5th 2012 at 10:34:16 AM

@ Lurker A valid point, but I have three points in return.

1. He's not lauded in any manner. Twilight knows about him because she's a massive nerd, but, judging by the reactions to her costume and the presentation of her fangirlism in the show, to virtually everybody else he doesn't warrant even a footnote in the history books. It's like asking someone on the street about the big names in medieval salt-production.

2. Being a powerful wizard doesn't necessarily translate to being good at combat. In fact, considering how we see Twilight's complex spells work, as well as her love for everything Starswirl, I'd say it's actually a safe bet that he didn't have any combat magic worth a damn.

3. It's perfectly possible to be regarded as both a great mind and an egotistical fool by history and your peers. See Mozart and Isaac Newton. In universe, and judging by the style of prose and so on and so forth, I'd say it's a safe bet that that parable was written by one of his contemporaries, who obviously didn't like him very much.

edited 5th Oct '12 10:39:25 AM by CDRW

Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#13247: Oct 5th 2012 at 10:40:16 AM

I agree that Twilight respects Sar Swirl too much for it to make sense that this happened to him. Trixie would work better, but be too obvious with the fact that that's pretty much what's happened to her before.

[up]You bring up some good points. My version of Star Swirl the Bearded, for instance, isn't actually very powerful r good at combat, just versatile, but he's well aware of his limitations (more than most ponies due to his talent) and is actually respectul of non-unicorns (after al, he based most of his spells on trying to replicate what they can do).

edited 5th Oct '12 10:47:24 AM by Sereg

PerpetualLurker Forever Scootaloo Since: Dec, 2011
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#13248: Oct 5th 2012 at 10:40:50 AM

@CDRW That makes sense. It's certainly a convincingly written parable in any case.

Is it wrong that I take more issue with the use of goblins and trolls than I do with the characters? tongue

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#13249: Oct 5th 2012 at 10:43:54 AM

[up][up]That might be so, all the more reason not to trust it. But, from canon, you'd expect Star Swirl to be some sort of Gandalf figure.

As for the three-part tale pattern, what I was expecting to happen was that either there'd be an opponent Star Swirl decided to flee from, or that the chicken would actually lear his lesson and stay by his side.

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#13250: Oct 5th 2012 at 10:47:54 AM

Holy shit. I'm so tired I've gone into overly analytical pedantic robot mode. I think I'll go take a nap before I start being incredibly annoying.


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