Generally “discredited” albums you like

@Jonny:

Yeah, Generator is pretty good. It's not my favourite, but I definitely like it a lot better than Suffer (which probably, uh, suffers from Seinfeld Is Unfunny since I'm aware it was quite influential, but I find most of it pretty meh).

Then again my favourite Bad Religion album (that I've listened to) is probably New Maps of Hell so what do I know?

edited 29th Sep '11 7:08:19 PM by Nyktos

I guess it is.

Personally, I'd say Avenged Sevenfold's Sounding The Seventh Trumpet. I like their old and new material, and there isn't much I won't listen to (the only genre I can't stand is opera.)

And, yes, I know that they're not exactly held in very high regard here, or in some parts of the metal community. I don't really care. I still enjoy "Darkness Surrounding," partly because it's a song I can actually mosh to (along with scaring the living hell out of everyone in the immediate vicinity if I've put it on a loudspeaker radio).

Back when I was into metalcore, I had an Avenged Sevenfold phase, and I still remember Sounding The Seventh Trumpet and the S/T as the best of their discography because they legitimately tried to do something different with them. Whereas Waking The Fallen is the most generic metalcore can get, and City Of Evil is uninteresting and poorly-executed hard rock, the first album has those little diversions (for instance, a piano ballad, an upbeat punk song, a longer track or two that sort of actually worked) while the self-titled is generally experimental enough to be their best work. I'm still years past being a fan of that band, but at least those albums stick out from the mold.

Because I choose to.

@Nyktos I'd say you know which BR album is your favourite and that's perfectly fine! :D

New Maps is a good one and again often overlooked I'd say. Many reviews of their last album (Kerrang certainly) mentioned how it was a step forward from Maps (not sure if I agree). Honest Goodbye, Grains of Wrath, Requiem for Dissent, Dearly Beloved and Scrutiny off the top of my head are all classic tracks.

edited 30th Sep '11 2:28:36 PM by Jonny0110

I didn't like The Dissent of Man much, compared to New Maps. I'm not quite sure why. It just didn't work as well for me, I guess.

There's a lot of BR's discography that I haven't listened to at this point, though. I've heard a lot of songs from all over the place (I got into the band through my friend's iPod, basically), but only a few of the full albums.

edited 30th Sep '11 7:24:27 PM by Nyktos

I guess it is.

I think it's the lyrics on Dissent that aren't up to standard, possibly. Cyanide actually contains the line "in this world of things".

I believed in you, Greg Graffin! How could you, man?

Aww, did I hurt your widdle fee-fees?

The End. Not the most lyrical album I've heard but it has some good beats and the lyrics are no worse than most other mainstream Hip-Hop. Plus there is a a song very similar to "Where is the love" on there called "One tribe" a song that makes up for all the filler tracks and dumb lyrics with its message alone. The Beginning was awful though.

edited 15th Jul '12 12:30:36 PM by KingNerd

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@Dark Decapodian: Brett wrote that one, actually.

I guess it is.

You mean "the annoying song from that Pepsi commercial that attempts to rhyme amnesia with evil".

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^^ Huh, I thought Greg wrote all the lyrics. Live and learn, I guess.

Aww, did I hurt your widdle fee-fees?

It's still a decent song not Crowning Music Of Awesome or anything but still has enough decent lyrics that you can look past it's flaws

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I like Queen's Hot Space, which, if not for "Under Pressure", their duet with David Bowie, would largely be ignored.

edited 7th Oct '11 1:42:00 PM by Premonition45

Cold Lake, just because I was born too late to really see why everyone hated on this album. While it's still their worst IMO, it's really still pretty good stuff. Reminds me of Megadeth in a way.

edit: (Damn formatting...)

edited 11th Oct '11 10:00:47 PM by DemonSharkKisame

Orbital's The Altogether may be much more stereotypical techno than their prior stuff, but it's still a darn good album and a heck of a lot more listenable than Snivilisation.

edited 16th Oct '11 7:18:11 PM by MetaFour

Chamber Music by Coal Chamber.

Enjoy the Inferno...

Agreed.

• I like Dream Theater's Systematic Chaos and Falling Into Infinity albums. Not as much as other albums (such as Scenes From a Memory or Images and Words), but I think that they're not as bad as some people make them out to be.
• I enjoyed Metallica's Death Magnetic.
• I thought that Muse's The Resistance was a great album (I know this album has its fans, but it seems to be generally though of as the least good Muse album).

edited 23rd Oct '11 8:30:39 PM by mcb01932

I didn't know any of those were "discredited"...with the exception of Falling Into Infinity, never heard it, I thought all of those albums were pretty good.

I don't know if it's really "discredited", but people really seem to forget about early Judas Priest. Pretty much everything pre-1980 is almost never mentioned. It's a shame, because Unleashed In The East-Live In Japan is probably one of their best albums.

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• Systematic Chaos is kind of "love it or hate it" album; fans of the album point out that the songs are pretty good musically, while haters tend to dismiss it as a corny, pretentious album.
• Death Magnetic is sometimes discredited because it's trying to win the loudness war.
• As for The Resistance...it's often dismissed for being too "poppy."

edited 23rd Oct '11 9:17:29 PM by mcb01932

I still don't understand how Death Magnetic was too loud in any way...

I don't even know what "poppy" means.

edited 23rd Oct '11 9:31:43 PM by NULLcHiLD27

"Poppy" as in, too similar to pop music. And I enjoy The Resistance about on par with Black Holes and Revelations, though admittedly those are the only two Muse albums I have at the moment (troo fanz may begin launching flames now).

Somehow you know that the time is right.

The Resistance didn't make me think "pop music", but what do I know...

edited 23rd Oct '11 9:35:48 PM by NULLcHiLD27

Me either, but music critic-type people are weird like that.

Somehow you know that the time is right.