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#1: Jun 14th 2011 at 10:48:02 PM

This trope has a lot of various misuse in this.

There are a few that are just about transfer students who just happen to wear the boys uniform of the school instead of girls which is just a transfer Bokukko / Wholesome Crossdresser or Tomboy. (I can see a whole other trope for these specific instances in general though.)

Or those who refuse to wear a uniform at all like Ranma.

And then there is Star Trek... wtf.

edited 14th Jun '11 10:53:18 PM by Raso

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#2: Jun 14th 2011 at 11:03:06 PM

The thing is, it's very hard to come up with a trope about something as widely used as uniforms that is truly exclusive to one particular country of medium. The idea of a person who continues to wear their old uniform being marked as an outsider isn't unique to Japan. There's no reason for a trope based on it to be unique to anime and manga. Or to works about schools, for that matter.

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#3: Jun 14th 2011 at 11:11:13 PM

I can understand the one where they wear the old ship patch for the star trek one but Bajorians are in no way an example of this they are allies not actually in the same org. When Major Kira actually does actually get starfleet commission she gets a standard uniform.

Rebelling aganst the uniform policy like the Fresh Prince Of Bel Air and Ranma, examples are a completely different trope than this.

As well as a Girl wearing a Guys uniform to school is something completely different.

edited 14th Jun '11 11:13:13 PM by Raso

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#4: Jun 14th 2011 at 11:31:16 PM

So, take out the part about the Bajorans. But the Maqui are an example, as ais the guy who kept his Enterprize patch when he transferred to the Columbia. The Fresh Prince one is really invoking this trope: he deliberately chooses to wear the school uniform in a way that clearly says, "I am not one of you!, I am an outsider."

That's what the trope is: using a different uniform to mark a character as Outsider to the group who wear the main uniform. Just because you spotted in in school-days animes and manga doesn't mean that it's limited to that.

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#5: Jun 14th 2011 at 11:43:09 PM

Not really Will is just wearing the uniform inside out it is the school uniform just differently which is Non-Uniform Uniform not this which is they don't have the uniform they are suppose to so they wear their old one. Same with the voyager example it's Non-Uniform Uniform.

Ranma just wears his normal wear to school that he has worn for years refuses to wear any uniform.

And the Ones where a Girl wears a guys uniform they wear the real guys uniform exactly like the guys in said school do. (which should be a completely different trope I probably should YKTTW although it maybe heavy overlap or subtrope with Wholesome Crossdresser / Bokukko or Tomboy.)

Edit: The Battle Royale example is also Non-Uniform Uniform doesnt say anything about transfer anything. As well as the Inu Yasha has nothing to do with anything dealing with this trope its just wearing a school uniform to the past.

Just wanted to open a thread before I chopped anything.

edited 15th Jun '11 12:02:51 AM by Raso

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#6: Jun 15th 2011 at 5:03:19 PM

Agree that the wearing the different gender's uniform should be split. There's even gender-flipped examples where boys wear the girl's uniform (Momiji Sohma of Fruits Basket for one)

edited 15th Jun '11 5:03:40 PM by StarryEyed

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#7: Jun 29th 2011 at 8:32:13 AM

In that case would Adam from Degrassi count as an enforced inversion of wearing the opposite-gender uniform, since there's nothing in the Degrassi uniform that's specifically boys-only and it's heavily alluded to that his mother's a big part of the reason the school has uniforms in the first place and may well have had a hand in the design?

edited 29th Jun '11 8:36:02 AM by nlpnt

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