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Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#1: Jun 14th 2011 at 9:59:53 AM

Can you Guess The Trope? Probably this is about Dumbo getting his first lessons with that magic feather? Or it's about Harry Potter making his first rounds on the broomstick?

Nope, it's not. While the trope is indeed about montages, it actually has nothing to do with "gonna fly", except that in one obscure example of such a montage, a song called "gonna fly" was used.

BUT, it has an alt title "Training Montage", which precisely represents what the trope is about. So how about we switch the two, call the trope "Training Montage" and leave "Gonna Fly Now Montage" as a redirect?

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
Sind Since: Jun, 2011
shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#3: Jun 14th 2011 at 10:13:15 AM

Gonna Fly Now Montage found in: 297 articles, excluding discussions.

This title has brought 323 people to the wiki from non-search engine links since 20th FEB '09.

This trope is doing exceptionally well. It is not being misused. There is no objective reason to rename.

edited 14th Jun '11 10:13:40 AM by shimaspawn

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pokedude10 Since: Oct, 2010
#4: Jun 14th 2011 at 10:50:04 AM

I agree with Shima, this is a good healthy Trope. The name might be a little long, but that's what redirects are for.

BTW, Do we need a single action Crowner?

troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#5: Jun 14th 2011 at 10:53:37 AM

Let's see some misuse first. The trope's doing fine currently, and anyone looking for Training Montage is going to find it.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
CrypticMirror Cryptic Mirror from Scotland Since: Jan, 2001
#7: Jun 14th 2011 at 11:00:14 AM

I guessed it quite easily. In fact it seemed so obvious I was convinced that I was going to find out I was wrong when I clicked the link and it was nothing to do with the Rocky-esque montages, but it was. I guessed that trope in 1!

Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Gentleman Troper!
#8: Jun 14th 2011 at 11:06:28 AM

Well, the statistics don't say which of the two terms "Training Montage" or "Gonna Fly Now Montage" brought more people to the wiki, as they're all grouped together.

But they do show that out of the 297 pages that refer to this trope, the majority actually use the term "Training Montage" (56.5%, whereas only 42.4% use Gonna Fly Now).

So it seems to me that this trope is "healthy" primarily because of its redirect.

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#9: Jun 14th 2011 at 11:14:49 AM

Which makes it successful. I think this may be a case of Ain't Broke, Don't Fix It.

[down] I was going to mention that but it slipped through my sieve of a brain as I was reading the thread.

edited 14th Jun '11 12:06:43 PM by Fighteer

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#10: Jun 14th 2011 at 11:48:23 AM

Also, "Named after a song", is not a reason to rename. First of all, being named for a work only applies when they are nearly identical, as in the biggest difference is a word or two spelled differently, or an article added. Second of all, songs are considered an exception, as they don't get their own work pages.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
I see the Awesomeness.
#11: Jun 14th 2011 at 3:08:40 PM

The only real exception being songs that are very specific, such as Carmina Burana.

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Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
#12: Jun 14th 2011 at 6:58:24 PM

Except "Carmina Burana" isn't very specific. (Most people really mean "O Fortuna.")

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#13: Jun 14th 2011 at 7:01:46 PM

Carmina Burana is the name of a cantata, not a song. It's made up of 25 songs and is more analagous to having a page for an Opera or a Play than having a page for a song.

edited 14th Jun '11 7:02:04 PM by shimaspawn

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
I see the Awesomeness.
#14: Jun 14th 2011 at 8:54:43 PM

The specific song dealie that has all the Latin chanting in it.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#15: Jun 14th 2011 at 10:20:37 PM

BTW, it's still a trope name, while songs don't get work pages made for them.

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