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I'm an Irene!
Most likely, Waxing Name.

Control Sticks got re-designed to make 3D movement easier. Hence the introduction of Analog by Nintendo.

The D-Pad is perfect for 2D, and 3D is easiest with the Control Stick.

Not that 3D games are unplayable with a D-Pad, of course. They're just naturally harder.
 2227 Marioguy 128, Fri, 12th Oct '12 9:39:32 PM from various galaxies
Geomancer
@Waxing: It makes things more tolerable. Unfortunately, one of the problems with 3D Land is that some of the deaths will be caused by your lack of depth perception, especially in the more vertical levels. This can still happen with 3D on. Worse, the 3D is actually mandatory in some levels, not just for some optional areas. So if you want to play with the 3D off for some reason (i.e. to save battery life) the game will give you a hard time about it. Which is one of the reasons I do not like that game.

edited 12th Oct '12 9:39:55 PM by Marioguy128

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[up]Man, does everyone have inferior depth-perception too?tongue
 2229 Bookyangel 2438, Fri, 12th Oct '12 9:43:28 PM from New York City
I was never good at Super Mario World (GBA). sad
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I'm an Irene!
I never played the GBA version of that game. I kind of sucked at the original. I mean, I could beat it, it was somewhat easier than 3, but yeah.
 2231 Marioguy 128, Fri, 12th Oct '12 9:45:45 PM from various galaxies
Geomancer
Man, does everyone have inferior depth-perception too?

Not everyone has good depth perception. And not everyone is good at everything. Don't be so ignorant.

edited 12th Oct '12 9:46:31 PM by Marioguy128

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[up]I never said everyone was good at everything. Clearly, you have superior "putting words in mouth-ness".tongue

edited 12th Oct '12 9:47:52 PM by MagcargoMan

I'm an Irene!
MM, seriously, knock it off already.

There is no reason to act like this. We get you like the D-Pad. All the power to ya there.

However, not all of us enjoy it for 3-D, (I don't enjoy it for certain 2-D games) and there's nothing wrong with our preference either. I respect yours, and we expect you to respect ours.
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[up]It's a joke. Can't you see all the tonguetonguetonguetonguetongues?
 2235 Folt, Sat, 13th Oct '12 5:27:51 AM from Hollow Bastion! >=D
Warlock Necromancer
[up] I pegged it as a joke, but dragging it on and on and on becomes tiresome...

As for the 3D in 3D Land, you don't need the 3D, but it's quite advantageous to have it on.

edited 13th Oct '12 5:28:41 AM by Folt

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 2236 Wacky Pancake, Sat, 13th Oct '12 5:38:57 AM from My computer. Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Double trouble!
Well, while MM's being kind of a dick (no offense, man), I've got to say that I never had any problems with the D-Pad while playing SM64DS either.

And I almost always play with 3D on, so...

edited 13th Oct '12 5:39:25 AM by WackyPancake

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 2237 Waxing Name, Sat, 13th Oct '12 8:03:58 AM from Storm's End
Ours is the Fury!
[up]The camera, I've heard, is a lot more manageable in SM64DS. I guess that makes using the D-Pad more tolerable, too.
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I'm an Irene!
I don't know. The n64 version had a great camera too.

Then again, I gotta relay the DS version. I think they're about equal.

And with the size of the Control Nub(which is pretty small), I don't mind a run button at all. Won't work for Handheld Smash, though. XD
 2239 Waxing Name, Sat, 13th Oct '12 7:03:02 PM from Storm's End
Ours is the Fury!
[up]I've played the original version of SM64, and the camera is indeed rather uncooperative. It gets really counterproductive in those parts where you have to walk across those narrow bridges, like that one in Wet-Dry World.
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I'm an Irene!
Oh, that's what you meant.

I meant the camera controls are similar.

Yeah, that's true. But this isn't unusual in any game. It's a matter of Fake Difficulty. And yeah, it's annoying. :|
 2241 Waxing Name, Sat, 13th Oct '12 8:32:59 PM from Storm's End
Ours is the Fury!
[up]The camera is more manageable in the DS version because it has a center-the-camera button like in Sunshine. The original didn't have that feature at all.
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I'm an Irene!
Well, they both have a similar style, anyway.

I agree, though. For the most part, I find a full control stick easier to use than a nub. But a nub's better than nothing. grin
 2243 Waxing Name, Sat, 13th Oct '12 10:39:52 PM from Storm's End
Ours is the Fury!
[up]If it were a 2D game, I would prefer a D-Pad. But NSMB2 is on the 3DS, which has the D-Pad in the position I don't like (that position where you have to rotate your thumb). Good thing NSMBU will likely use the Wii Remote on its side.
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 2244 Marioguy 128, Sat, 13th Oct '12 10:41:13 PM from various galaxies
Geomancer
Eh? It'll obviously use the Gamepad. What are you talking about?
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 2245 Folt, Sun, 14th Oct '12 2:27:26 AM from Hollow Bastion! >=D
Warlock Necromancer
[up] It'll use the Gamepad for singleplayer, and Wiimotes & Pro Controllers for Multiplayer, I believe.
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Well, while MM's being kind of a d*** (no offense, man)

Wacky, you are skirting dangerously close to the "respect lost because you said a direct insult" line.

[up]Wiimotes and Pro Controllers are multiplayer only?

edited 14th Oct '12 4:26:16 AM by MagcargoMan

 2247 Wacky Pancake, Sun, 14th Oct '12 4:41:52 AM from My computer. Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Double trouble!
Oh, come on man, you can't do that, we agree in almost everything. Who will defend you from the other posters if we stop being friends tongue.
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[up]Okay, it was a bit of a joke. Just try not to name call unless your doing as a joke.tongue

You are forgiven.smile Because you are still useful to me, MWAHAHAHAHAHH!tongue

edited 14th Oct '12 4:46:14 AM by MagcargoMan

 2249 Folt, Sun, 14th Oct '12 5:16:45 AM from Hollow Bastion! >=D
Warlock Necromancer
[up][up][up] The Gamepad will be used by a fifth/extra player for Boost Block placements I believe if you're playing multiplayer.

Also, another thing, are you using the "tongue" smiley because you're genuinely kidding around, or because you want to cover your ass and claim "I'm just joking" if someone calls out flaws in your statements?

edited 14th Oct '12 5:17:18 AM by Folt

Fantastic Supreme ‹berkaiser Emperor Folt of The Infinity and Beyond" ... "The First"!
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[up]I use tongue for when I'm joking, teasing or not serious.

or because you want to cover your a** and claim "I'm just joking" if someone calls out flaws in your statements?

Now that's just cold of you.

edited 14th Oct '12 5:24:52 AM by MagcargoMan

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