General Mario Thread

Every company (not just Nintendo) is only as good as their last notable game. Even moresofor specific franchises. At least in the eyes of the public. Nintendo right now is in a transitory/spin-off/experimental phase, so they're getting more scrutiny than usual. It doesn't help that they're still releasing a large number of games, but the overall quality hasn't been what we usually expect from them.

With the exception of Sticker Star and Paper Jam (which I've actually heard is a pretty good game, if just not as good as the first three), Nintendo's recent releases have been largely met with praise. The only thing truly rage inducing that I can think of that they've done recently is the announcement of Federation Force and that was nearly a year ago.

Seriously, one mediocre or even somewhat bad game from most any other company and the game gets panned but the company itself will be fine so long as they have a decent track record. Meanwhile, even if Nintendo makes even the slightest flaw, whether it's a perceived one or real one, and you'd think they had just released a baby murdering simulator or something.

Yeah that's outrageous, Nintendo doesn't even condone violence.

Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash, Animal Crossing: amiibo Festival, Devil's Third, Chibi-Robo! Zip Lash, Happy Home Designer, Triforce Heroes, I could go on. Not all of them are necessarily bad (at least the 3DS games, eeesh on the Wii U games), but they're seen as lower quality than what we expect from them. It would be ignorable if the top tier games were top quality, but that didn't turn out perfectly. Even the actual good stuff like Splatoon, Mario Maker, and Xenoblade X all have noticeable flaws that prevented universal praise. Okay, maybe not Mario Maker. That came out without any big complaints. But overall, the atmosphere around Nintendo has seen better days. It'll get better in time.

I'll grant you the first two even though Ultra Smash seems to just exist but Devil's Third was a third party game (I think), Happy Home Design is doing really well from what I've heard, I haven't heard anything about Chibi-Robo other than the initial complaints of They Changed It, So It Sucks, and I haven't been hearing anything bad about Triforce Heroes (especially since we got three great Zelda games in a row before it). As for your points on Splatoon and XCX, you're just further proving my point. Every everything in existence has flaws yet games like Fallout 4 or Witcher III get near endless praise in spite of them while the average Joe seems to Accentuate the Negative in regards to XCX.

amiibo Festival is actually doing really well in Japan.

Happy Home Designer is doing well there. Amiibo Festival bombed ridiculously hard. Sub 50K numbers, and the amiibos didn't sell well.

Devil's Third was funded and published by Nintendo. Not advertised, so they avoided the worst scenario, but it doesn't help.

Triforce Heroes isn't bad (I think, haven't played it), but it's seen as being not nearly as good as Zelda usually is. And we're talking about perceptions after all.

Fallout 4 has plenty of negative word of mouth. I see more negative stuff about it than positive. Witcher 3 does get a lot of praise, but that might be because it deserved it. Now XCX is more niche than both of them, and it's flaws are very transparent. I like it, but it could've been much better. So it couldn't fix Nintendo's 2015 reputation.

Paper Mario is such a bro, letting himself be a tissue for Luigi.

How much screentime and dialogue do the Koopalings actually have in Paper Jam?

They have actual dialogue this time, so a bit I guess? They're definitely more than glorified cameos.

There are a lot of minigames in this game. I know the series always had a lot, but I feel like my regular/mini-game time is split 60:40.

Compared to Bowser's inside Story, Paper Jam doesn't have that many mini games...at all actually.

I mean if you're counting the Toad rescue missions where you're still in the overworld...it's still less.

Here's another video from the "Half A Press guy" that I found really interesting.

He needs to narrate more of his videos. His voice is oddly soothing.

not sure if it goes there, Mario Kart is included on this topic? because i wonder if there is a MK 7 play group

Paper jam is pretty damn fun, outside of Papercraft Battles

I had the strangest dream last night about a new Mario & Luigi game.

It had the 2 regulars, and Sonic and Tails. They fought alongside Mario & Luigi, but had Kickflips and Spin Dashes instead of Jumping and Hammers. I guess the story was just like Paper Jam, but replace Paper Bowser with Eggman. All the enemies were Badniks and Bowser's troops, and they had all these flashy-show-offy Bro attack moves. And then I woke up.

I kinda want that to happen now, even though the chances are slim to none. It'd be a lot better than another wasted potential Olympics game.

What would it be called though? Mario & Luigi: Dimension Divers?

& Knuckles

Mario & Sonic & Luigi & Tails.

I think that if Mario and Sonic can compete in the same Olympics, they may already exist in the same world. :P

I would have preferred a platformer to an RPG, though Sonic already has Sonic Generations...

Unfortunately SEGA and/or Nintendo are being incredibly stubborn about setting, so neither is ever going to happen in an official capacity.

Mario is not free of sin.

There's something that's been bothering me literally since I was four. There's this song from an episode of Mario Bros. 3 and I can make out most of it. It goes "... Koopa stalking Ninjaman," but then there's a completely incomprehensible line before it goes "Ninjaman we're gonna get you yet..." Does anyone have the slightest idea what the line in the middle is supposed to be? Because I sure don't and I've been trying to figure this out for 26 years.

Not gonna lie, the hypothesis of being lazy for using warp zones made me laugh.

Apparently it's "Quit dawdling to the brink." I can't tell either way.

Sloth is good but my favorite is gluttony.

"It's hard to justify gluttony's status as a deadly sin; it's basically just a specialized version of greed. Nevertheless, Mario is quite guilty of it. When Super Mario encounters a Fire Flower, he eats it and transforms into Fiery Mario. As Fiery Mario, he continues to eat every single Fire Flower he can find, an action which carries absolutely no meaningful benefit. He continues eating them simply because he's an insatiable boor and there's no one around to fucking stop him."

Bowser Jr. from Paper Jam is seriously a character who deserves his own game.

I really like what they did with him there.

I have a feeling that rumor about the new Paper Mario game will have good elements from Sticker Star and some stuff from Paper Jam. Then again that depends on if we get a direct to prove the rumor soon.