Kara No Kyoukai

If you mean the one about the bomber, yeah, I've read it. Forgot which site I found the translation on.

Wow bout the movies, Episode 6 is like... Serious Adaptation Decay. For me it felt like they took a bunch of important stuff out and the narrative suffered.

To make matters worse they seem to have removed the minor little things that I happenned to like, and then made the ending considerably less satisfying.

It seems Liberated Liberator was right, back on page 4.

I have questions about Paradox Spiral: why did Shiki and Touko say that Tomoe was the reason for Araya's downfall? He did bring Shiki the sword, but that was the only important thing he did. And how did Shiki wake up, if Tomoe and the Counter Force weren't the reasons? Was her awakening inevitable, and happening when Tomoe brought the sword a coincidence?

It was a coincidence. She just happened to wake up when he arrived.

Enjou is worthless. Quite literally.

It is a general rule of thumb that everything that occurred in Spiral Paradox would not have changed (or at least would have not changed drastically) had Enjou never existed in the first place. So Enjou had pretty much nothing to do with it, and Touko and Shiki were pretty much just trying to honor his memory, not state fact.

edited 3rd Sep '11 2:49:13 PM by KSPAM

So basically, Shiki regaining consciousness was inevitable (despite any possible action taken by Araya to prevent it), meaning that Paradox Spiral is a "Shaggy Dog" Story where Araya is doomed from the start and all Tomoe does is ensure that Shiki is well-armed for her fight against him.

Pretty much. Besides bringing the matter to their attention, Enjou did absolutely nothing of worth or value in that movie.

edited 3rd Sep '11 2:54:24 PM by KSPAM

Enjou brought Shiki to the building. Which admittedly was also part of Araya's plan, but it was a plan doomed to fail, so in a certain sense he allowed Araya to fail. By having his plan work perfectly until the end. Otherwise he would just sat there in the apartment repeating deaths forever because Shiki would have no reason to investigate.

edited 3rd Sep '11 9:28:46 PM by Clarste

I'm going to confess; I don't really understand much of the story and how it happened.

Read my liveblog, it might clear some things up. It will also make you wonder why I haven't finished the 7th movie yet. I'M WORKING ON IT!

I think it's much easier to understand if you have prior knowledge of Tsukihime and Fate Stay Night.

I found it (Paradox Spiral) to be quite straightforward, actually. The constant Match Cuts and switches in perspective are disorienting, but really you just need to keep track of the approximate times everything is happening at. Once you can string the events together in chronological order, then the plot becomes much simpler to follow.

So I found this manga supposedly bundled with the Mirai Fukuin novel. Features Shiki taking care of a cat, among other things.

Oh, and am I the only one hoping for a complete translation of the Mirai Fukuin novel? Or at least a movie based on it (after Fate/zero finishes, of course)?

edited 10th Sep '11 3:09:20 AM by LiberatedLiberater

Just here to say that KNK has beautiful soundtracks and animation. This series is one of the series that proves that Japan is the best when it comes to non-CGI animation.

No arguments on the soundtrack, yeah. It's beautiful.

Incidentally, I'm amused that the first movie includes an extended scene of Shiki eating ice cream one-armed while wearing only a shirt. That's an...interesting form of fanservice. I approve.

Ah, that scene, I liked it too.

Just curious, why didn't Mikiya and Shiki didn't kiss at one of the last scenes of the series? It seemed like they were about to do it, but just hugged instead. Does that scene have any significance?

Hmmm, no idea. Are you talking about the epilogue, or the end of the sixth movie? (EDIT: I fail at episode counting, I mean the seventh movie. It's the eighth movie that's the epilogue.)

Incidentally, @Liberated Liberator: There's a translation here. (If I'm reading this right, Shiki and Mikiya had a kid and became yakuza bosses, not necessarily in that order? Well that's...unexpected. It doesn't seem to fit Mikiya's image at all. Seems their daughter inherited Azaka's "familial love" tendencies though.)

It is interesting to note that they went and elaborated on Shizune, who was a one-line mention in the original light novels. I was confused and thought I'd missed something when I saw that line originally. It's kind of unexpected that she's also the roommate Azaka mentioned though.

Oh, and it seems Touko moved out of the building. Wonder where she went afterwards?

edited 22nd Sep '11 7:35:27 AM by ashnazg

Ah, you know, when Mikiya crawled his way to Shiki after she killed Shirazumi?

About Tomoe... I thought his plot-relevant action was that he 'brought' the barrier-destroying sword to the tenth floor, thus weakening Souren's barriers enough for Shiki to break through at that moment.

To be honest, I don't understand why Aozaki said that it would be trivial for Shiki to destroy the barriers he imprisoned her in - it is certainly true that her MEoDP would have allowed her to kill them, but if so, why didn't she just break out immediately and continue slicing him into little bits?

edited 21st Sep '11 12:45:50 PM by Thrombin

Because she was unconscious. She just "happened" to wake up right then and undid the barriers herself. The hero can't begin their escape from the prison cell until after they wake up, after all.

I'm very sure the sword had nothing to do with it, because it was still sheathed at the time.

Gee, what an amazing coincidence. I wonder if Aozaki being loud and annoyed had anything to do with that?

@ dRoy Eh, I don't know about the animation. It's inconsistent. Sure, it's pretty and sometimes even fluid in the fight scenes but the number of scenes where the frame just remains the same for a couple of awkward seconds is beginning to bug me.

edited 21st Sep '11 1:07:53 PM by Thrombin

It was indeed an amazing coincidence. His Origin is worthlessness, thus he actually had no real effect on the story post introduction.

Origins don't work in quite such a straightforward manner, except in cases where Araya does his origin awakening thing (which didn't happen right up until the very end). So that's not why he was unimportant, although it contributed.

Well, yeah. I more meant thematically than in literal rules.

@ashnazg: Thanks! I've been looking for that.