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BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#1: Jun 9th 2011 at 12:01:11 PM

I find the tone of the article somewhat dodgy, but in essence, psychological experiments are showing that using Willpower to make decisions then makes it more difficult for you to do other mental exercises.

It's a long article so I'm only going to post part of it. http://www.tnr.com/article/environment-energy/89377/poverty-escape-psychology-self-control

Flannery O’Connor once described the contradictory desires that afflict all of us with characteristic simplicity. “Free will does not mean one will,” she wrote, “but many wills conflicting in one man.” The existence of appealing alternatives, after all, is what makes free will free: What would choice be without inner debate? We’re torn between staying faithful and that alluring man or woman across the room. We can’t resist the red velvet cake despite having sworn to keep our calories down. We buy a leather jacket on impulse, even though we know we’ll need the money for other things. Everyone is aware of such inner conflicts. But how, exactly, do we choose among them? As it turns out, science has recently shed light on the way our minds reconcile these conflicts, and the result has surprising implications for the way we think about one of society’s most intractable problems: poverty.

In the 1990s, social psychologists developed a theory of “depletable” self-control. The idea was that an individual’s capacity for exerting willpower was finite—that exerting willpower in one area makes us less able to exert it in other areas. In 1998, researchers at Case Western Reserve University published some of the young movement’s first returns. Roy Baumeister, Ellen Bratslavsky, Mark Muraven, and Dianne Tice set up a simple experiment. They had food-deprived subjects sit at a table with two types of food on it: cookies and chocolates; and radishes. Some of the subjects were instructed to eat radishes and resist the sweets, and afterwards all were put to work on unsolvable geometric puzzles. Resisting the sweets, independent of mood, made participants give up more than twice as quickly on the geometric puzzles. Resisting temptation, the researchers found, seemed to have “produced a ‘psychic cost.’”

Over the intervening 13 years, these results have been corroborated in more than 100 experiments. Researchers have found that exerting self-control on an initial task impaired self-control on subsequent tasks: Consumers became more susceptible to tempting products; chronic dieters overate; people were more likely to lie for monetary gain; and so on. As Baumeister told Teaching of Psychology in 2008, “After you exert self-control in any sphere at all, like resisting dessert, you have less self-control at the next task.”

In addition, researchers have expanded the theory to cover tradeoff decisions, not just self-control decisions. That is, any decision that requires tradeoffs seems to deplete our ability to muster willpower for future decisions. Tradeoff decisions, like choosing between more money and more leisure time, require the same conflict resolution as self-control decisions (although our impulses appear to play a smaller role). In both cases, willpower can be understood as the capacity to resolve conflicts among choices as rationally as possible, and to make the best decision in light of one’s personal goals. And, in both cases, willpower seems to be a depletable resource.

So, is this a case of Life Imitates Art ?

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pvtnum11 OMG NO NOSECONES from Kerbin low orbit Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
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#2: Jun 9th 2011 at 12:31:56 PM

Interesting idea. Basically, a tough day making decisions leaves you mentally drained. I think we kind of knew that already, but it's neat to see the science attempting to explain why that is.

edited 9th Jun '11 12:32:05 PM by pvtnum11

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Carciofus Is that cake frosting? from Alpha Tucanae I Since: May, 2010
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#3: Jun 9th 2011 at 12:36:01 PM

Interesting. The next natural assumption, assuming that the study holds up, is that it might be possible to train willpower just as you train any other ability. That's something I already considered to be the case, but it would be nice to verify experimentally if this is really the case.

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.
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#4: Jun 9th 2011 at 12:46:33 PM

Let's test it. For Science.

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Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
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#5: Jun 9th 2011 at 12:48:14 PM

If we can train willpower and have this verified by fancy science peoples then ooooh.

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#6: Jun 9th 2011 at 12:49:09 PM

[up] So how much exp will this cost me?

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LoveHappiness Nihilist Hippie Since: Dec, 2010
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#7: Jun 9th 2011 at 12:49:11 PM

I need willpower therapy. tongue

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nzm1536 from Poland Since: May, 2011
#8: Jun 9th 2011 at 12:50:59 PM

Well, of course you can train willpower. You aren't born as The Determinator

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TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
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#9: Jun 9th 2011 at 1:09:31 PM

Want to train your Willpower? Go heal someone, or blow stuff up with magic! tongue

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DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#10: Jun 9th 2011 at 1:21:43 PM

Leading to the paradoxical question of what is it exactly that one uses to train the willpower?

Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
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#11: Jun 9th 2011 at 1:22:27 PM

Sitting around doing nothing. Alternatively doing things and doing nothing.

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del_diablo Den harde nordmann from Somewher in mid Norway Since: Sep, 2009
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#12: Jun 9th 2011 at 1:25:01 PM

[up][up]: Getting shit thrown in your face, but reduce the amount of willpower used.

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ViralLamb Since: Jun, 2010
#13: Jun 9th 2011 at 3:22:48 PM

I have a book about this, or rather a book that talks about this and the study. Some things:

1) Willpower is a resource

2) When you turn an action into a habit (brushing your teeth, doing laundry, taking shower, etc.) it then becomes a "free-action" which means that you don't consume any mental "energy" when doing it.

3) I forget the rest

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Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#14: Jun 9th 2011 at 5:12:36 PM

Well we all know alot of Super Robot run on willpower, so great idea I say!

Seriously? I'd love to know this. There is alot of days (like today) where I just dont feel like doing shit.

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#15: Jun 10th 2011 at 8:12:37 AM

wait..so you're saying World of Darkness roleplaying games were right all along about having willpower be a spendable resource?

:O

Usht Lv. 3 Genasi Wizard from an arbitrary view point. Since: Feb, 2011
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#16: Jun 10th 2011 at 8:15:58 AM

It's like Final Fantasy 2, is you get half to all of your will power used up on any given day, it increases in overall value. Going into the negatives may cause the stat to drop, so you can't over extend yourself either. Then go through shit repeatedly with some rest stops at an inn and before you know it, you're an emotional juggernaut of invincibility.

edited 10th Jun '11 8:16:16 AM by Usht

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