Kid Icarus Uprising

When Medusa shows up in the end, it implies that this is the same Medusa. She said "Hades keeps reviving me. It could be that Hades only keeps her memories and uses souls to create a new body for her.

Though, from a philosophical stance, if she has all her memories, why wouldn't she count as a "real" Medusa? She's essentially the same person.

Because there might be a real Medusa soul floating around the Underworld with no body. I wonder if Hades simply used it or ate it like the other souls...

I imagine the soul of goddess is probably extra-delicious. If regular mortal souls are like bacon, I bet a god soul would be like roast ham.

Oh, and I got a new headcanon for the ending recently, but it's so obvious to me now I want to make sure the rest of you didn't already assume it. You remember that whole "Medusa falcon-punches Hades in the face" bit of the ending? The part that people were calling out as Deus ex Machina? Remember what she says: "Hades keeps reviving me!" That means he probably revived her more than once. Assuming Pit killed the original Medusa in the first game and Hades didn't revive her until the beginning of Uprising, that would give us only one revival...except for the end. My idea is that the reason Medusa shows up is that Hades was reviving her a second time to give him help against Pit and the Great Sacred Treasure, and wasn't expecting for her to help Pit instead.

Forgive the wall of spoiler text.

So I've been testing the whole five-minute rule and once-per-mission rule of the Power of Flight, and so far they've been pretty good at keeping it within the rules, but I found two parts where Pit can fly longer than the alotted time (Besides when it actually burns his wings). They are the Hades miniboss in Chapter 23, and the final phase of the final boss in Chapter 25. Both can last indefinitely despite using the Power of Flight.

Incidentally, I also learned that the Hades miniboss in 23 has a slashing attack that really, really hurts if you get hit by it. I never saw it before because I always ended the fight before it could ever happen.

Don't you have the Three Sacred Treasures on Chapter 23? Or at least, you're supposed to the first time you play it.

Nope, even if you bring them, Hades destroys them before the fight..

Worth noting that Chapter 9 plays with this a lot. Whether you bring the treasures or not, the Air Battle is using the Power of Flight. The Underworld Gatekeeper is a weird fight in that it ends after a set amount of time no matter how much you shoot it. As a result, the Air Battle never exceeds 5 minutes. Then you confront Medusa, and fly to fight her. But how, without the Power of Flight? Simple. Palutena made you bring along the Wings of Pegasus even if you disabled them, and since those have unlimited flight, the Medusa battle is also allowed to last forever if you stall.

I'm guessing that either of the goddesses can actually keep Pit's (and Dark Pit's by extension) wings from burning up for as long as they want while using the Power of Flight but with their personalities the thought of doing so just doesn't occur to them all too often.

Most definitely not true. Play Chapters 17 or 21 and see how they react to the idea of Pit flying longer than the Power of Flight is supposed to last.

Wait, I'm confused about what you're saying. Do you mean to say that the Power of Flight doesn't have any actual limit? Because Pit's bony, bloody, and burnt wings would like a word with you. (I love alliteration.)

EDIT: Mimicutie'd.

edited 27th Nov '12 5:38:45 PM by Zarek

I think it's more likely that the times that the game chooses to exceed the 'established limit' without the Pegasus Wings are representative of Palutena's and Viridi's true power rather than Gameplay and Story Segregation. That they don't choose to protect their angels' wings in such a manner all the time is probably due to some strange whim or desire to make Pit's whole experience more gamey - which of course they'd treat as Serious Business.

edited 27th Nov '12 7:41:51 PM by Recon5

What? That makes no sense.

The only levels you can exceed the 5 minute Power of Flight are Chapter 9, where you have the pegasus wings regardless of whether or not you have the other treasures; Chapter 22, where you're Dark Pit, who explicitly does not follow the Power of Flight rule; and Chapter 21, where you see the results of flying for too long.

...So Viridi's also a pyrokinetic, then?

Yeah, that doesn't mesh at all. The idea is hat Pit's wings can only handle so much of that power at a time, so if it exceeds the usual time limit within a certain cooldown period, they burn.

As for the times when it can exceed 5 minutes, I suppose the final battle is an oversight, because who expects you to intentionally let it go that long at that point?

As for chapter 23, are you counting the flight portion before that? Because until Hades does his big whammy, you're probably using the Pegasus Wings.

And yeah, I like how the Medusa fight uses the Pegasus Wings, showing that all three Treasures get used.

Wait a sec, when do you fly for more that 5 minutes in the Final Battle? You're in the Great Sacred Treasure for most of it, and near the end doesn't Hades instakill you if you take too long?

No, apparently you can drag out the final charging sequence as long as you can stay alive, though it's quite the violation of common sense to do so.

...I'm pretty damn sure you can't.

Because I distinctly remember failing that segment. Not from lack of health, but from Hades launching a full screen laser at me.

...Wait, no, I'm thinking of the Medusa meter.

...Can you drag out that final charge? Huh.

edited 27th Nov '12 8:03:50 PM by Deathonabun

Yeah, apparently. I remember asking people to try that, and see if anything happened, because I sure as heck can't dodge for that long at that part.

Well, anywho, we can definitely list that last one as an oversight.

Every other time you go over 5 minutes, there are reasons. Or consequences.

Another oversight would be the air battle with Hades in chapter 23.

Can't that one be chalked up to the Pegasus Wings, like in 9? Regardless of whether or not you're using the treasures? I haven't done that chapter without the treasures, but I would assume the same "keep the pegasus wings just in case" thing would happen.

edited 27th Nov '12 8:10:21 PM by Deathonabun

The only two oversights regarding five minutes are the air battle with Hades in 23 (Which he's destroyed the Wings of Pegasus by anyway, not to mention you can enter the stage without them equipped and this time Palutena doesn't say to bring them anyway), and the finale at the end.

There's no reason to stall either one out for over five minutes, but you CAN, and nothing happens.

The Pegasus Wings were heavily damaged, but they weren't completely destroyed. Just pretend they still work just enough to keep Pit in the air for the few extra minutes he's in the air.

Not buying that.

Got any better explanations?