First thing's first: KEEP. THIS. SHIT. CIVIL. If you can't talk about race without resorting to childish insults and rude generalizations or getting angry at people who don't see it your way, leave the thread.
With that said, I bring you to what can hopefully be the general thread about race.
First, a few starter questions.
- How, if at all, do you feel your race affects your everyday life?
- Do you believe that white people (or whatever the majority race in your area is) receive privileges simply because of the color of their skin. How much?
- Do you believe minorities are discriminated against for the same reason? How much?
- Do you believe that assimilation of cultures is better than people trying to keep their own?
- Affirmative Action. Yea, Nay? Why or why not?
Also, a personal question from me.
- Why (in my experience, not trying to generalize) do white people often try to insist that they aren't white? I can't count the number of times I've heard "I'm not white, I'm 1/4th English, 1/4th German, 1/4th Scandinavian 1/8th Cherokee, and 1/8th Russian," as though 4 of 5 of those things aren't considered "white" by the masses. Is it because you have pride for your ancestry, or an attempt to try and differentiate yourself from all those "other" white people? Or something else altogether?
edited 30th May '11 9:16:04 PM by Wulf
Though, can I tell you guys something, since you've given me great advice?
This shall be my true, Start of DarknessPlease.
Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.I'd it bad that, now I'd feel really weird if it turns out I'd have had better luck with the white girl that was hitting on me vs the black girl I'm interested in? I just mean, damn, my luck is absolute shit, don't get a single break, ya know?
This shall be my true, Start of DarknessWhat's wrong with dating the white girl?
That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - SilaswNothing, it's just...I always got rejected by them, if the time I finally meet a black girl (it's rare that I do) I get rejected by them too then, well...damn.
This shall be my true, Start of DarknessPerhaps there are some non-race related issues with your dating experience? I'd suggest you drop my the Romance thread in Yack Fest for some advise on the matter.[1]
"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael "If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ CyranOmni, I get the feeling you may be misattributing the cause of your dating woes to race. Like deflecting other flaws onto a target that is more outside your control.
The the other cause of such woes is caring so much about dating. I have fully embraced the fact I will more or less will never find anyone because I'm not worth having as a person.
Accept the despair and focus on other aspects of living. Obsessing about relationships has only led to unnecessary woe.
I funnel all this unused passion and pent up frustration into discussions about issues concerning equality and social justice. Much more productive and I learn a lot.
The Blog The Art...Why would you tell yourself something so horrible?
This shall be my true, Start of DarknessOkay that's just bad advise, "I'm going to be forever alone and have to accept it because I'm not worthy" is just as bad (if not worse) then "I need a partner now or my whole world is going to fall apart!", there's a healthy middle ground called "I will find a partner when I find a partner, however I'm in no rush and I'm not going to let my desire for a partner define or control my life".
edited 3rd Aug '15 4:51:45 AM by Silasw
"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael "If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ CyranSo about that topic...
"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur@Omni, Depression mostly and an extreme need to distance oneself from any attitude that can come off as prideful, arrogant, or self-aggrandizing
@Silas, well of course it's awful advice, it's just all I got that's worked for me. Presumably cooler and more experienced heads will prevail here, I'm just one voice and not even the best voice.
The Blog The ArtThat said, I got a question which I am not sure if it belongs either here or on the paleonthology thread. I suspect Euo would be the better person to answer this but my posting here basically forces her to educate everyone instead of just me (evil laughter).
How are the pygmies/bantus/khoisan peoples modern racial tensions evident in the modern day africa?
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothesIt's probably through the same old dehumanizations tactics used by every other group.
Same as always: tribe beats "race". Even among the remaining Khoisan, which tribe you're in determines where on the local totem pole you are socially.
Also, there isn't a single "race" of Pygmies... which is also born out genetically.
If you want to know the most dangerous "race" to actually be in Africa, the answer is always "you're totally fucked if you're albino".
edited 3rd Aug '15 10:51:49 AM by Euodiachloris
How about albino twins. How fucked would they be.
But yeah I was mostly wondering how the interactions between them were. I.E: I may be a sadist interested in understanding how others suffer or I may be a scholar interested in the human interactions across the pond
Take your pick
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothesOoh, I can up that: albino triplets from a witchcraft lineage and a bad-luck-woman mother widowed before their birth! If lucky, one will immediately die at birth (to be turned into muti). Yup, the lucky one: the others would have to grow up with Damocles' sword swinging over their heads, worrying about the day they sneeze in the wrong direction, the drought or locust horde hits, or something else happens (like, the head of the kraal gets up to his eyes in gambling debts). And, before anybody gets cute: Traditions, Christian or Muslim — albinoism tends to get a raw deal across the board, even if the details vary. -_-
The thing is, which tribe is on top when is down to politics and numbers. :/ It's not like it's written in stone and is subject to change upon genocide, plague, environmental and/or economic collapse or famine.
edited 3rd Aug '15 11:28:20 AM by Euodiachloris
They'd be double squared fucked, since albino body parts are supposed to have magical properties.
People in Africa still believe in witchcraft, which alone brings the worse in people with live people being burned alive over witchcraft accusations
edited 3rd Aug '15 11:10:10 AM by AngelusNox
Inter arma enim silent legesNumbers? Really? The thing that gives power to others is the looming threat of bringing more people to kick your ass?
They need to be introduced to 1337 culture so they can go "1v1 me bro"
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothesedited 5th Aug '15 8:30:20 PM by Nettacki
Not especially politically relevant, but gets points for sheer 'what' factor.
What's precedent ever done for us?... I know Star-Crossed Lovers across cultural and social lines is a gold mine for romantic fiction. But... Nope. Double nope and triple nope. I don't care how well written that is: nope. Just, no.
edited 6th Aug '15 2:23:59 AM by Euodiachloris
If it were possible to pour Brain Bleach into my monitor, I would be doing so at this very moment.
That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - SilaswAric isn't even a German name. It's written Arik.
edited 6th Aug '15 2:52:09 AM by DrunkenNordmann
Welcome to Estalia, gentlemen.And in a bid to replace that disgrace of a romance novel (although I think they are almost all disgraces), have a look at this:
A Vice writer infiltrated a white pride Facebook Group and turned it into 'LGBT Southerners for Michelle Obama'. Among other things. There are screenshots. They have to be seen to be believed.
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
I think most of the troopers from outside the U.S. are kinda used to it at this point, so it's no biggie.
Edit: Inevitable page topper is inevitable.
edited 2nd Aug '15 7:16:15 PM by Silasw
"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael "If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ Cyran