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First thing's first: KEEP. THIS. SHIT. CIVIL. If you can't talk about race without resorting to childish insults and rude generalizations or getting angry at people who don't see it your way, leave the thread.

With that said, I bring you to what can hopefully be the general thread about race.

First, a few starter questions.

  • How, if at all, do you feel your race affects your everyday life?
  • Do you believe that white people (or whatever the majority race in your area is) receive privileges simply because of the color of their skin. How much?
    • Do you believe minorities are discriminated against for the same reason? How much?
  • Do you believe that assimilation of cultures is better than people trying to keep their own?
  • Affirmative Action. Yea, Nay? Why or why not?

Also, a personal question from me.

  • Why (in my experience, not trying to generalize) do white people often try to insist that they aren't white? I can't count the number of times I've heard "I'm not white, I'm 1/4th English, 1/4th German, 1/4th Scandinavian 1/8th Cherokee, and 1/8th Russian," as though 4 of 5 of those things aren't considered "white" by the masses. Is it because you have pride for your ancestry, or an attempt to try and differentiate yourself from all those "other" white people? Or something else altogether?

edited 30th May '11 9:16:04 PM by Wulf

erazor0707 The Unknown Unknown from The Infinitude of Meh Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#27451: Apr 16th 2024 at 1:49:05 PM

Exactly.

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Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#27452: Apr 18th 2024 at 8:49:50 PM

https://www.rsis.edu.sg/rsis-publication/rsis/singapores-protection-of-minorities-religious-freedom-and-state-management/

A RSIS commentary that Singapore is stepping up to protect minorities, including the Muslim/Jewish communities in the wake of discrimination against both groups in other places.

"Exit muna si Polgas. Ang kailangan dito ay si Dobermaxx!"
RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#27453: Apr 18th 2024 at 10:55:39 PM

"Other places" includes their immediate neighbors Indonesia and Malaysia.

Where there's life, there's hope.
Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#27454: Apr 18th 2024 at 11:43:21 PM

Not sure if that can work since Indonesia/Malaysia don't have Jewish communities last I checked.

"Exit muna si Polgas. Ang kailangan dito ay si Dobermaxx!"
RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#27455: Apr 19th 2024 at 12:33:03 AM

They do have, in various size, especially Indonesia. Remember that Indonesia is a gigantic maritime empire with the fourth largest population, so it's a very diverse country.

The Jewish community in those countries are facing threats and harassment from the Muslim majority, with many having to hide their faith for their safety.

Where there's life, there's hope.
Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#27456: Apr 19th 2024 at 12:43:38 AM

Huh. I remember someone doing research on the Malaysian Jewish community after WWII. I have to look for that since the guy published it (was an article online).

Edited by Ominae on Apr 19th 2024 at 12:43:49 PM

"Exit muna si Polgas. Ang kailangan dito ay si Dobermaxx!"
luisedgarf from Mexico Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
#27457: Apr 26th 2024 at 2:44:22 PM

I've got mixed feelings about this since I've always felt the Confederates got off too easy after losing the war. Maybe if the USA hadn't been so lenient and handled Reconstruction so poorly we wouldn't have to put up with Lost Causer bullshit to this day.

As a Mexican and a foreigner, I find this part incredibly bewildering, considering that Americans are not known for giving second chances, and when they do, they come with many caveats.

This is in contrast to how the Mexican government dealt with the aftermath of the Mexican Revolution, where the government made sure to eliminate anything that smelled of the loyalist forces of the governments of Porfirio Diaz and Victoriano Huerta, and at the end of the revolution, all loyalists and their leaders were executed, exiled, or switched sides for convenience.

raziel365 Anka Aquila from The Far West Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
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#27458: Apr 26th 2024 at 3:26:29 PM

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I think that cultural inertia played a part on this, after all, the USA prided and prides itself as founded by righteous rebels, so the idea of righteously punishing a sizeable amount of traitors was likely a bridge too far, and it's only nowadays that the usonian public might accept such a concept thanks to Trump and his cronies.

Aside from that, well, there's also the reality that the USA has only had one civil war in its history. By contrast, our (Latin American) history has plenty of civil wars, enough for our people to understand that sometimes the government has to do what it must to restore peace.

Edited by raziel365 on Apr 26th 2024 at 3:27:10 AM

Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, maybe we should try to find the absolutes that tie us.
CosmosAndChaos SEGA!Rockruff from Brazil Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
erazor0707 The Unknown Unknown from The Infinitude of Meh Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#27460: Apr 27th 2024 at 2:32:34 PM

Here We Go Again!.

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luisedgarf from Mexico Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
#27462: Apr 28th 2024 at 11:17:28 AM

I think that cultural inertia played a part on this, after all, the USA prided and prides itself as founded by righteous rebels, so the idea of righteously punishing a sizeable amount of traitors was likely a bridge too far, and it's only nowadays that the usonian public might accept such a concept thanks to Trump and his cronies.

Aside from that, well, there's also the reality that the USA has only had one civil war in its history. By contrast, our (Latin American) history has plenty of civil wars, enough for our people to understand that sometimes the government has to do what it must to restore peace.

Still, it is incredibly contradictory, and even hypocritical, that the U.S. has no problem forgiving or ignoring certain controversial issues, especially when it comes to certain groups of its own citizens, or even its close allies, but has no problem severely punishing or even executing certain people out of petty revenge or to make them an example of what it means to mess with the U.S., its government or its citizens.

Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
#27463: Apr 30th 2024 at 4:13:23 AM

https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20240427/p2a/00m/0na/019000c

An ex-police inspector from a certain prefecture mentions that his superior/s have "told" him to keep an eye on the foreigners. They consist of Koreans, Brazilians, anyone who is of Southeast Asian descent or have dark skin as they're either visa overstayers or dangerous with hidden weapons.

He does go on the record to say that if you're stopped by police officers (uniformed or not, the latter being plainclothes and they show ID), if they say "Well, your hairstyle,' or 'You're a foreigner" when you ask them why they need to talk to you, you can record it (write it down later or use something to record the incident [audio]) to lodge a complaint.

"Exit muna si Polgas. Ang kailangan dito ay si Dobermaxx!"
CosmosAndChaos SEGA!Rockruff from Brazil Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#27464: Apr 30th 2024 at 11:11:44 AM

As a Brazilian(and therefore would be a potential target if I was in Japan), I can say for sure these officers are terrible people.

Edited by CosmosAndChaos on Apr 30th 2024 at 3:12:07 PM

Intended to embody the Beware of Vicious Dog trope plus Super-Speed. Yup.
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