Metal Gear/ Metal Gear Solid

Btw, I posted some info in the MGSV thread on what the E3 trailer is actually talking about and how BB has apparently read 1984.

It still kinda works though, just like Meryl, you kept hearing how badass Solid Snake really is and when you finally see him it's kinda underwhelming.

Unless you are playing The Twin Snakes, then Solid Snake is pretty much the badass from the legend.

edited 30th Jun '15 12:56:09 PM by RunoEddie

the whole not living up to the legend thing is kind of a recurring thing in mgs. MGS 2 takes this further by stating that BECOMING the legend would scar you for life and wouldn't make you respectable or admirable in any way.

Twin Snakes not only missed the point of Snake being less Chuck Norris Clone more "broken fatalistic miserable tough guy" but was inconsistent about it. Snake can flip like fucking Neo and jump off rockets yet ingame his default stance is still his hunched over MGS 2 stance and his movements suggest age.

Snake was still the man who made the impossible possible. Taking on a tank on foot by himself is incredible.

I dunno, it's not like the original wasn't a cheesefest.

Why the hell did Liquid strip both Snake and himself of their shirts for their fist fight, anyway?

I might have said this before, but the moment that really solidified (hah) Snake as a badass to me was in MGS 2 when you have to use a sniper to cover Emma.

I was playing on the PC port and I was borderline failing at every step aiming with the keyboard, so when Snake calls you and asks if you need help, I accepted really hard.

And then he nailed that part one-shotting EVERYTHING, the targets were BARELY inside my field of vision and he had already downed them.

I was thoroughly impressed.

Wow I'm annoyed. You can find the first two MGS games in the PS Store for Vita but even though Wikipedia says the first game is also for Vita it's not on the store. I wanna play all of the games! ):<

Which MGS game? M Gs 1? You can get that as a PS Classic then download that to a PSP or Vita.

Or Peace Walker? Well that's on the PS Store as a PSP game but the Vita can play PSP games digital last I checked.

Has there been any definitive answer on Portable Ops' canonicity? Or does it fall into some weird gray area where the events sort of happened, but not quite as the game presented?

it's more or less a gray zone, yeah.

Aside from one of the first lines in PW that's the only mention of PO in the whole game("Finally, we can leave all that crap in San Hieronymo behind.")it's pretty grey.

edited 30th Jun '15 2:02:35 PM by LordofLore

MGS 1. And okay, I'll look in PS 1 classics because I'm pretty sure that's a category in the store.

You can also use the search bar to find it. It'll say that it works on PS 3, PSP and PS Vita so once you buy it there you buy it for all consoles.

Don't forget to get Special Missions/VR Missions if you can.

I'm up to the Metal Gear REX fight.

There's not much else I have to say about the game's quality that I haven't covered in my filibuster-length previous posts.

Gray Fox's death is nothing short of brutal though. Like you read about it and go "Oh, yeah, that sucks but it's par for the course for MGS", but actually seeing it is a whole other story. Like jeez, he dies, okay - but he gets absolutely massacred on-screen. It's probably one of the most violent deaths I've seen in the series, Metal Gear Rising aside.

Like there have been violent deaths in MGS. Volgin got electrocuted on top of a burning tank by a bolt of lightning and burned to death, but most of that was covered by Big Boss and EVA hugging in the foreground. Gray Fox just... gets viscerally crushed by a giant robot. It's striking.

I lost the fight after that, so I decided to give the fight a break.

The first game really beats into you how hopeless and dead inside Snake is. And to see one of his oldest friends be crushed to death before him is no doubt Heartbreaking.

What a thriiiiilll...when darkness and silence in the niiiiiight~

Huh. Now, still not showing on my Vita TV store.

As noted both here and elsewhere on the site, Peace Walker takes a Broad Strokes approach to Portable Ops by literally shortening it to a throwaway line. However, is there anything in PO that clearly can't' be canon, because of something added later on or something like that?

To my knowledge, the events of Portable Ops were made irrelevant rather than undone.

Big Boss meeting Gray Fox shouldn't be irrelevant.

Also dat music.

Pretty much the best MGS song.

And then there's Gene's Theme. Gene was a cool character.

edited 1st Jul '15 1:03:03 PM by Nikkolas

Oh, to be sure. Portable Ops had its problems but the score certainly wasn't one of them.

I mean, Big Boss found Eva in Hanoi. And San Hieronymo isn't Hanoi.

It amuses me that the one line it was reduced to was "finally we can leave all that crap behind".

And a mention of Big Boss having founded FOXHOUND.

...It occurs to me that Skull Face being Gray Fox would make a frightening amount of sense.

Skin grafts are a thing. And Gray Fox has "child soldier in occupied country" on his resume.

And I'm gonna be honest, Gray Fox getting his name by killing a bunch of french people is probably my least favorite thing in Portable Ops.

Meeting Gray Fox again, you mean. Because Big Boss already knows Gray Fox in Portable Ops.

He gives exposition about Gray Fox's backstory and stuff.

edited 1st Jul '15 1:30:00 PM by unnoun