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Edited by Mrph1 on Dec 1st 2023 at 6:53:59 PM

Gabrael from My musings Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#17251: Jan 21st 2015 at 7:02:39 AM

This is really good news. Honestly this was my only hesitation about medically altering children before 18: that they could have negative health effects. Of course that has to be balanced with the mental and emotional effects and that's worthconsidering. But as a parent, you just have to be careful and weight everything before picking the best option on behalf of your kid.

So this is very reassuring that you can give your child the time they need to confirm this is the decision for them and to what degree they wish to change it without causing them any adverse conditions.

"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#17252: Jan 21st 2015 at 9:01:01 AM

It seems like long term it results in better adjusted adults. Good to hear it works.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#17253: Jan 21st 2015 at 9:02:37 AM

Heck, it seems that early puberty in general has been causing problems for kids for quite a while, and it's been something of a medical conundrum.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#17254: Jan 21st 2015 at 9:58:48 AM

It might be a good thing to use this to slow the puberty of kids who have issues with early puberty to give them a better outcome.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
NOT THE BEES
#17255: Jan 21st 2015 at 2:37:18 PM

Yeah. I mean, my main concern is that running extended experiments on minors is generally not cool, but there's not always any way around it when you're looking at something that happens in puberty, and it sounds like they're going through as much informed consent and selection as can be hoped for.

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#17256: Jan 21st 2015 at 2:40:38 PM

Yeah. Unfortunately, there are diseases that only affect children, and issues with puberty all result in us experimenting on children because the alternative is pretty horrible. That and not knowing the right dosing for children leads to all sorts of messes.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#17257: Jan 23rd 2015 at 1:11:47 PM

A Christian gay couple has had their children rejected from a private Nashville non-denomination school.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
NOT THE BEES
#17258: Jan 23rd 2015 at 2:16:13 PM

On the one hand, it's a private religious school and they can reject whoever they want.

On the other, they're advertising themselves as non-denominational but applying denominational doctrine.

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#17259: Jan 23rd 2015 at 3:45:49 PM

in some christian circles, i've seen "non-denominational" mean "we don't follow any of the man-made churches, we only worship the trinity," in fact a code for a very specific denomination.

It's tricky, because it can mean multiple things.

BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#17260: Jan 23rd 2015 at 3:58:12 PM

OK state lawmaker Sally Kern triples down on LGBT hatred, submitting bills to 1) strip salary from any state clerk who files a gay marriage license; 2) allow parents to force their children into conversion "therapy"; and 3) legalize religious discrimination against LGBT people.

edited 23rd Jan '15 3:58:58 PM by BlueNinja0

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
Morgikit Mikon :3 from War Drobe, Spare Oom Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Mikon :3
#17261: Jan 23rd 2015 at 4:23:38 PM

Why is this heterofascist not on some kind of terrorist watchlist?

edited 23rd Jan '15 4:24:55 PM by Morgikit

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#17262: Jan 23rd 2015 at 5:29:36 PM

[up] Is there any particular reason you feel the need to use the phrase "hetrofacist" over just "facist"?

Though I do agree with your point, such a horrible women deserves to be kept far away from any and all power imaginable.

[down] Fixed my pronone.

edited 23rd Jan '15 6:20:30 PM by Silasw

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#17263: Jan 23rd 2015 at 5:32:13 PM

She's a woman, and since she's also racist and misogynistic heterofacist is probably a bit too narrow. She seems to be an all purpose bigot.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#17264: Jan 23rd 2015 at 6:20:22 PM

[up] Pronone fixed. Facist probably works all by itself, that tends to cover everything doesn't it?

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Morgikit Mikon :3 from War Drobe, Spare Oom Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Mikon :3
#17265: Jan 23rd 2015 at 6:27:52 PM

By that logic, white supremacists should just be called supremacists.

majoraoftime Immanentizing the eschaton from UTC -3:00 Since: Jun, 2009
Immanentizing the eschaton
#17266: Jan 23rd 2015 at 6:29:44 PM

Another OK article

“Oklahoma voted overwhelmingly against same-sex marriage, and yet the Supreme Court stuck it down our throats,” Russ said

I giggle every time "shove it down our throats" is mentioned in conjunction with gay rights stuff.

edited 23rd Jan '15 6:32:52 PM by majoraoftime

tryrar Since: Sep, 2010
#17267: Jan 23rd 2015 at 6:58:18 PM

....Sally Kern can go sit on it and give it a good twist. I'm just glad that nothing she's proposing can ever get past the courts to to how blatantly discriminatory it is

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#17268: Jan 23rd 2015 at 7:10:34 PM

The proposed bills are really just designed to bait the courts, though. The one law 1599 seems to say that courts are not allowed to accept challenges to this law. So i guess judicial review now is a liberal conspiracy?

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#17269: Jan 23rd 2015 at 7:41:53 PM

A federal judge just ruled against Alabama's SSM ban. Without imposing a stay.

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/01/23/3615155/federal-judge-rules-alabamas-ban-sex-marriage/

edited 23rd Jan '15 7:42:19 PM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#17270: Jan 23rd 2015 at 7:42:24 PM

[up][up] Now? Reactionaries have been complaining about "Judicial Activism" for years, and they almost always mean, "Waaah, the courts say I'm not allowed to be an asshole to (gays/minorities/muslims/whoever)! Waaah!"

edited 23rd Jan '15 7:43:09 PM by BlueNinja0

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
Keybreak Since: Apr, 2010
#17271: Jan 23rd 2015 at 8:09:53 PM

I read this article about Kern apologizing for misogyny and racism (though not homophobia), and I wonder...

Do politicians apologize because they decide that they were wrong, because they see that they've hurt people, or is it mainly just to repolish their reputation?

Morgikit Mikon :3 from War Drobe, Spare Oom Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Mikon :3
#17272: Jan 23rd 2015 at 8:15:05 PM

I imagine like everybody else, it's a combination of the three. You have to look at their actions after the apology and see if there's really a change.

tryrar Since: Sep, 2010
#17273: Jan 23rd 2015 at 8:16:42 PM

[up][up][up][up] Welp

edited 23rd Jan '15 8:17:01 PM by tryrar

BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#17274: Jan 23rd 2015 at 9:16:46 PM

Do politicians apologize because they decide that they were wrong, because they see that they've hurt people, or is it mainly just to repolish their reputation?
Given how often a politician gets caught doing whatever they apologized for, it's most often the latter. I won't say none of a politician's apologies are genuine, but ... most of them aren't.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
Morgikit Mikon :3 from War Drobe, Spare Oom Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Mikon :3
#17275: Jan 26th 2015 at 11:50:04 AM

Alabama puts a 2 week stay on same-sex marriages.

If I had access to a You Tube video, I'd probably put "F*** You" by C. Lo Green. So it's probably best I don't have access right now.


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