King Of Fighters general

It was in XI, though only in the home port, because Mai herself was only in the home port. (And as an unlockable no less.)

It's not in XIII?

Nope. Aside from her Neomax, the only Supermove she has there is is her Chou Hissatsu Shinobi Bachi, and that's it.

She also, insanely, had it as a special in MI2. Not a super, a special- She could do as often as she'd like.

edited 2nd May '16 4:11:39 AM by Pulse

Well I guess it's fine if it is an "uppercut"/invincible reversal move in MI2 rather than a damaging super...

edited 2nd May '16 4:21:24 AM by Malco

She had it as a special move in 98UM as well in EX mode.

It's glad that everyone has 2 supers again. And more so, that they all have SDM versions, last time that was the case was Ko F 99.

edited 2nd May '16 4:21:38 AM by Niitris

Yeah I agree that will be good. I kinda disliked the single SDM or LDM meta.

The more moves the better, I say. As many problems as the MI games had the movelists weren't one of them- Look at that amazing suite Terry got, for instance.

Alice Garnet◊ is supposed to be half-Japanese? Lol okay sure, SNK.

edited 4th May '16 12:50:20 PM by Vertigo_High

You say that like anyone looks like the whole world isn't really stylized. I don't know anyone, Japanese, American or otherwise, who has eyes that big.

The heavy stylization is partly why a lot of Phenotype Stereotype is pretty common in videogames and manga, like it's common for Japanese characters without fantastical colored hair to usually have black, brown, or red/dish-brown hair and dark eyes. Even in KOF the majority of Japanese characters fall into this, with the exceptions being half-Japanese, magical folk or cases where it's obviously dyed(Yamazaki).Blonde hair and blue eyes combo though are usually the cookie cutter scheme used for white foreigners, especially American and British ones, and let's face it, Alice looks whiter than Terry Bogard's left buttcheek to where the" oh she's half Japanese!" feels like a pretty egregious case of But Not Too Foreign. Either that or whoever designed here has never met an actual white/Japanese person in their life, since even stylized they wouldn't look like Alice most of the time. Apparently she won the recessive lottery. If she's dying her hair(which makes sense since she's a Terry Fangirl) and has naturally brown hair or something, maybe I could buy it but otherwise it just seems like they weren't even trying. Like really, you could say "oh she's half black!" and it'd be just as believable, which frankly is not at all.

Frankly I'm not a fan of making characters who supposedly are mixed feel/look more like one ethnicity with another just tacked on either to make them seem more exotic or have more home appeal in the case of half-Japanese characters. It feels like a cop out and even has some subtle Unfortunate Implications at times.

edited 5th May '16 1:10:01 AM by Vertigo_High

Laura and Sean from Street Fighter, on the other hand, are pretty much the opposite of that, they don't look Japanese at all, but I guess they are the exception.

Dead or Alive's Hitomi doesn't look half-German... does she?

I don't understand the need for characters to be half-Japanese though. But I guess I should be reading that trope page to find out why...

Sean actually LOOKED black/Brazilian in SF 3.

Then Bengus and SF 5 happened.

You can't have respectable black people in Street Fighter, and since his dlc is coming sooner or later and they won't make him ass again, of course he's ambiguously light skinned.

That's just how it is in Japanese media, like how they made Ryo half-Japanese so he can have an excuse to be blonde (and partly also to ripoff Ken). And you know, "half" is an establish fetish that exists in hentai works...

Dudley's respectable!

He's Indian.

And a British stereotype, don't forget that. ('Keep it classy!')

He's English

He meant that he's of Indian descent, not that he's of Indian nationality.

Where is that stated?

looking it up... it sounds like he is ascribing to an old Fanon interpretation

Dudley is based on a famous British boxer

edited 5th May '16 9:25:27 AM by FrozenWolf2

Indo-British.

He doesn't have any African features, especially when compared to characters like (SF 3) Sean, Balrog, and Dee Jay.

You could use Elena, though, I guess, even if they made her lighter skinned in x Tekken and USF 4, too.

But back to KOF. For the most part, other than maybe Lucky, I can't say I can think of a black person in this series that I don't like. Heavy's probably my favorite 2-D boxer in terms of gameplay, Nelson looks great, and Seth's a pretty solid design.

And don't forget Silver, Duck King, and Foxy. They're pretty cool and Bad Ass too you know.

And arguably Mr. Big.

Duck's a little weird, but yeah I can't be that mad at him. And Silver/Silber's black? Guy just seems like a dark skinned Japanese dude to me.

Apparently he's from Germany.

edited 5th May '16 9:26:46 AM by Hashil

Which is why his name is sometimes rendered as Silber- It's, shockingly enough, German for silver.

A bit of an unfortunate coincidence is that lighter skin generally does show up better in animation. There's a point where lines need to be drawn, but the facts of the media worked in can't be entirely ignored, either.

edited 5th May '16 9:51:32 AM by Pulse