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I presume that was directed at DBL? Because I may be a nerd, but I sure as hell am not a girl .

Here.

Thanks, I might get it someday.

Correct. Sorry, I didn't realise I was ninja'd.

So my English class has to write an essay on an inspirational person, one of my classmates picked Caitlyn Jenner and the teacher gave her a disapproving look and now i'm sad because i didn't get to call the teacher a transphobic shitlord

props to that kid tho

To be fair, I would've disapproved of Jenner, too. She's arch-conservative (right down to opposing gay marriage) and elitist. None of my trans friends would call her a role model, and while it's not my place to partake in that judgement, I can easily see why.

Now, Laverne Cox on the other hand...

edited 5th Sep '15 6:41:54 PM by TAPETRVE

Your info miiiiight be outdated

She's still a Republican. Even if it's just for their fiscal policy, that still is shit for other transgender people because of Republican views on socialized healthcare and interfering with the free market (I.e. they are Bad Things™). She's a rich white woman who made her fortune pre-transition presenting as a rich white man.

oh wow, the seattle pi. been years since they've been in print (they're online only).

on makeup: go nuts. who cares what other people think?

on jenner: she just had an interview with ellen and it's.....yeah jenner kinda shot herself in the foot. I'm trying to find the article but it seems to be a bit hard to track down.

edit: found a quote by jenner from just the other day.

and

the last one isn't relevant to the issue but this is the person who's probably going to become a public figure for the trans community, folks. meet you at the bar, guys.

edited 6th Sep '15 8:30:13 AM by ImmortalFaust

Eh, we've also got Janet Mock, Laverne Cox, and Carmen Carerra, who are all pretty good role models. They've also shown they can take control of interviews that go into a transphobic direction.

Those ladies are fierce.

true.

call me a little paranoid. I'm a bit twitchy these days.

I also know of a few nonbinary folk who, with more exposure, would be great at bringing acceptance of nonbinary identities.

Miley Cyrus isn't one of them. Yo, what's good?

No, Miley is not.

I've also recently been told that genderbending is transphobic, and I, as a trans person, must stop people from making genderbent art or comics.

No. Not gonna happen.

Yeah, I don't see "this character, but the other gender, still cis" as a transphobic thing. It's just a different way to look at the character, as long as it's not excluding transbends as well.

Isn't most genderbending actually sexbending?

More or less, yeah.

edited 6th Sep '15 10:48:37 AM by smokeycut

It's both. Or if it isn't, the genderbent character is passing really well.

There are some cases, such as in El Goonish Shive, where it doesn't affect their gender.

oh?

does miley identify as nb? that statement (to me) makes it sound like that.

I heard somewhere that Miley does, but she's pretty awful.

Cool nonbinary folks, and what they do!

• A Stiffler (and their cisgender wife, K Copeland). They make the webcomics Chaos Life and Find Chaos.

• La Roux. Electronica artist (formerly a duo).

• Kaitlyn Alexander. Actor on the webseries Carmilla, where they play a nonbinary character. Also writing and starring in another webseries, though I forget the name, and it hasn't begun airing yet.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop-shop/6598191/miley-cyrus-gender-fluid-nothing-to-do-with-any-parts

Black genderqueer noise musician Dreamcrusher is an awesome personality, too.