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Colgate: And if you don't tell them, and they find out, and they feel lied to or decieved? :/

Plus why would you date them if they had a problem with it?

edited 5th Jan '13 7:53:51 PM by Zersk

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Collen: Transitioning is not perfect, especially those who do not have unlimited money on their hands. Jawlines for example, would require surgery. This stuff can add up, and there will always be people who can pass better than others.

edited 5th Jan '13 7:54:10 PM by MrAHR

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yeah, but cis people don't have to go through this crap and have dickheads reject them for being trans*.

Gave them our reactions, our explosions, all that was ours For graphs of passion and charts of stars...

Unlimited Money is dangerous, considering you can single-handedly inflate an economy. o-o

^ Yeah, so? :/ They're cis! That's just how things are right now.

Not fair yeah, but not teling people something that important isn't going to make them any happier.

edited 5th Jan '13 7:55:49 PM by Zersk

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Life is not fair Collen.

I swear to ******** *** it isn't.

That's how it is.

I'll back up AHR, you can't give a trans person fertility of the opposite sex, and you cannot say, change bone structure significantly.

edited 5th Jan '13 7:56:29 PM by Aqueos

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so. what.

Gave them our reactions, our explosions, all that was ours For graphs of passion and charts of stars...

If I had unlimited money, I'd use it to create a revolution of the proletariat to overthrow the state and capitalistic system.

Everyone has problems. Everyone has something that makes they're life miserable. For some it's love, for other it's mental health, some it's family, other's it's physical health, and a bunch of other stuff, and if you're normal, it's probably more than one of those things. So yes, it does indeed suck.

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To me that seems awfully ironic.

You claimed a transitioned person was exactly the same. He merely countered your point.

edited 5th Jan '13 7:57:29 PM by Aqueos

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Well I suppose once they get good enough there could be like NANITES to slowly restructure your body over a period of time. :o

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that doesn't make anything better.

they are exactly the same.

edited 5th Jan '13 7:58:24 PM by Collen

Gave them our reactions, our explosions, all that was ours For graphs of passion and charts of stars...

If you wish for something to change you must do something. Complaining accomplishes little.

You cannot change underlying bone structure. You cannot make one naturally produce hormones in the quantities they would be for the other sex.

And you cannot argue against my fertility comment.

edited 5th Jan '13 8:00:09 PM by Aqueos

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http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-truths-that-will-make-you-better-person/

This may or may not help.

Lostie's girl, do,do, da na,na Where can i find a woman like that?

What aque said.

That being said, AHR, your tone needs a ton of work. And fast.

Also, no, sadly there's no way to completely transition from one sex to the other. Not yet at least. Denying that doesn't help anything.

edited 5th Jan '13 8:01:54 PM by ThatOneGuyNamedX

In which way and which post because I said a lot of things.

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Saying a thing is so does not make it so, no matter how often or loudly you say it. Some trans* need more transitioning to present passably than others, and it might be more than they can afford. That is how things are, amd denying it won't change that.

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I wrote that having missed like half this page, so nevermind about that -.-' /needs to post faster.

Mmmk. If you see anything specific you want to comment on, let me know, kay?

edited 5th Jan '13 8:03:55 PM by MrAHR

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I know. I'd be effectively using money to abolish money.

Well we seem to have dealt with that elephant in the room. Back to chemistry.

I don't really see how that's possible, but that was exactly what I was getting at. Let's just avoid political discussion so the two of us don't turn into a pile of smoking rubble.

edited 5th Jan '13 8:07:49 PM by Aqueos

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I will, don't worry.

What are you, left wing batman?

Collen, you have fair points, but you kind of degenerated into mutterings about how life sucks (and then you get reanimated asa zombie and forget it ever happened). And as much as it sucks epic, epic amounts of cock, I mean, serious, pay-per-view levels of dicksucking going on there, transitioning isn't always perfect. That's a thing we'll have to live with.*

However, it works ENOUGH, and if you follow through with everything, with some effort, it will be okay.

AHR, you mostly kept your cool, but seriously, "trap" is like "nigger." Don't do it. And while transition isn't perfect, as I said, it's usually good enough (and getting better steadily). Besides, the question wasn't concerning not being attracted to people who were still visibly masculine to some degree, it was about not being attracted to someone who is not in any discernible form in any way their birth sex (aside from some internal organ placement). In that case- if you literally can tell absolutely no difference- yes, it's a dick move. It's not just a thing; it is prejudice. It's not like not being attracted to black girls. It's not like not being gay or straight. It's a reaction to learning something you otherwise wouldn't know. It's basically saying "oh, well, I used to really like this dude, then it turned out he was born poor... He's not poor now, actually he's god a pretty good income, but he was BORN poor."

Mura: -flips the bird to veterinary science with one hand and Euclidean geometry with the other-

Left wing Batman would be interesting.

All right, won't use trap anymore. Didn't realize it was that bad. I mostly put it with the word "futa" and the like. A specific definition of a specific subset.

edited 5th Jan '13 8:10:59 PM by MrAHR

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@AHR I think that requires it to be in porn or something though