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Gendercide!:

 1 Blue Ninja 0, Thu, 19th May '11 3:20:53 PM from The Middle of Nowhere Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Plotting my Escape
In case this hasn't been posted before, the gender ratios in China and India are topping 1.2:1 boys:girls and are only getting worse. An article from the Economist goes into more detail about what's pushing the urge to kill baby girls before and after pregnancy. An excerpt:
In its detailed and extensive investigative report, the magazine opens its article with chilling force. A baby girl is born in China’s Shandong province. Chinese writer Xinran Xue, present for the birth, then hears a man’s voice respond to the sight of the newborn baby girl. “Useless thing, ” he cried in disappointment. The witness then heard a plop in the slops pail. “To my absolute horror, I saw a tiny foot poking out of the pail. The midwife must have dropped that tiny baby alive into the slops pail!” When she tried to intervene she was restrained by police. An older woman simply explained to her, “Doing a baby girl is not a big thing around here.”

The number of dead and missing baby girls is astounding. In some Chinese provinces, there are more than 130 baby boys for every 100 baby girls. The culture places a premium value on sons, and girls are considered an economic drain. A Hindu saying conveys this prejudice: “Raising a daughter is like watering your neighbor’s garden.”

Midwives even charge more for the birth of a baby boy. But the preference for a boy rises with both economic power and the number of children born to a couple. The imbalance of boys to girls is no accident — it reflects a prejudice that runs throughout the societies where the abortion and killing of baby girls is considered both understandable and routine.

Add to this the widespread availability of ultrasound imaging services. Even though the governments of China and India have officially declared sex-selection abortions to be illegal, they persist by the millions. (And, interestingly, the magazine notes that Sweden actually legalized sex-selection abortions in 2009.)

This sentence from the investigative report is particularly horrifying: “In one hospital in Punjab, in northern India, the only girls born after a round of ultrasound scans had been mistakenly identified as boys, or else had a male twin.”

The social consequences of this imbalance are vast and uncorrectable. China and India now face the reality of millions of young men and boys who have absolutely no hope of a wife and family. In China, these young men are called guanggun or “broken branches.” Just consider this — the 30 to 40 million “broken branches” in China are about equal in number to the total number of all boys and young men in the United States.

These young men represent a looming disaster on the societal level. Young males commit the greatest number of criminal acts and acts of violence. Marriage has been the great taming institution for the social development of young males. Without prospect for marriage and a normal sex and family life, these multiple millions of unmarried young men are becoming a significant social challenge in China and India. Some observers even argue that this may lead to an increased militarism in the region.

Of course, the greatest disaster is personal for the young men and boys who face the future as “broken branches.” The parents who insist on having boys are dooming their own sons to lives of brokenness, frustration, and grief.
I'm going to get killed becuase some guy saw me walk out of a Subway eating a foot long shotgun - Mousa
 2 pvtnum 11, Thu, 19th May '11 3:25:08 PM from Kerbin low orbit Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
OMG NO NOSECONES
So, you'll eventually end up with millons and millions of young Chinese males who have no chance to marry.

Soudns like a good source of cannon fodder.

I think it's an outgrowth of their one-child limit. I'd imagine that eventually, grandparents will start dying off and the population will start to fall again, if it hasn't already peaked. Then they can either continue this stupid policy of one-child limits, or open it up to two children in order to sustain the population, which will correct (eventually) the gender disparity.
Happiness is zero-gee with a sinus cold.
Well as the countries increase education, the problem will become mitigated but the process will take a long time.

Also policing is a serious problem. A good 800 million Chinese live in rural areas with little or corrupt police presence without good oversight. So even if someone did commit a crime (which btw is punishable by death) there's nobody to do anything about it. Urban areas have the police coverage but urbanites rarely employ such an attitude about boys/girls since there's no difference between the two.

Ironically, it was better under communism when the government guaranteed equal opportunities for women. But alas, way too many problems with communism that make it not worth it.

EDIT: Well I wouldn't call their one-child policy stupid because it's basically China taking the hit for the rest of the world. I have no idea what to call it really.

edited 19th May '11 3:30:02 PM by breadloaf

 4 pvtnum 11, Thu, 19th May '11 3:31:10 PM from Kerbin low orbit Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
OMG NO NOSECONES
I say it's stupid because of the infanticide that goes on. As a measure of population control, the policy itself is effective. I only dislike the side-effects.

edited 19th May '11 3:31:19 PM by pvtnum11

Happiness is zero-gee with a sinus cold.
 5 Totemic Hero, Thu, 19th May '11 3:32:43 PM from the next level Relationship Status: Abstaining
Holiday surprise
I thought this thread would be about something along the lines of Frank Herbert's novel The White Plague.

That said, this will eventually kill the population growth in China, some 30-40 years down the line.

edited 19th May '11 3:33:17 PM by TotemicHero

"These days they have a stat for how many times a guy goes for a cup of coffee." -Mark McGwire
Well the infanticide happens in India as well, so I think it's more a function of lack of education and capitalism. They figure boys are worth more on the market than girls. It's idiotic. Previously in the agrarian areas, girls were just as useful as boys because everyone was an equal farm hand.

One child laws are a sensible method of slowing down the exponential rates of reproduction in the world. If every couple tries to "keep the population aloft", we'll soon run out of space; the elderly are getting older and not dying, as yet more children are born.

A temporary limit of one-child-per-family, if it isn't rife with idiotic gendercide as mentioned above, is a good thing, as it means that the planet's population takes a temporary "lull" as the oldest generation ceases to live. If it becomes an issue (hint: it won't, for a while), repeal the law and reinstate when the population reaches a certain point. It's stable.

-edit-
I got ninja'd and it changed the entire goddamn meaning of my post >_<

edited 19th May '11 3:35:46 PM by AllanAssiduity

 
 8 Mark Von Lewis, Thu, 19th May '11 3:37:14 PM from Somewhere in Time Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
KCCO
Communist China - redefining the phrase "sausage fest".

And by insane troll logic, the dirty commies killing girls = them damn dirty commies hate boobs and pussy. And that's terrible.

Forgive the above joke; sounded funnier in my head.

edited 19th May '11 3:38:33 PM by MarkVonLewis

Val-halla at your boy, yo.
 9 joeyjojo, Thu, 19th May '11 5:51:03 PM from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Happy thanksgiving!
Sweden actually legalized sex-selection abortions in 2009

That's misleading. Sweden has allow abortion on demand since the 30s. It's a free country. How are you going police anti sex selection laws? arrested ultrasound technicians?

edited 19th May '11 6:41:28 PM by joeyjojo

Well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. Campion and vindicator only of her own. -John Quincy Adams on US imperialism
WHARRGARBL
I was wondering how you'd enforce something like that too. Does Sweden have everyone seeking an abortion write up a short essay on why you think you deserve one, and only the best ones are chosen?

 11 joeyjojo, Thu, 19th May '11 6:40:45 PM from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Happy thanksgiving!
I can't wait to see the shit-storm that will kick up when some one tries to sue for 'wrongful birth' because a doctors got the sex wrong.
Well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. Campion and vindicator only of her own. -John Quincy Adams on US imperialism
 12 Mark Von Lewis, Thu, 19th May '11 6:57:46 PM from Somewhere in Time Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
KCCO
Dumbass Chinese killing baby girls... if anything the world needs more women; at least a 3:1 ratio of women to men.

Val-halla at your boy, yo.
 13 joeyjojo, Thu, 19th May '11 7:02:57 PM from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Happy thanksgiving!
Sex section is a touchy issue. I know there was controversy here in oz when it came out a couple aborted a pair of twins boys because they wanted a girl[1]

[up]we definitely need more chinese girls wink

edited 19th May '11 7:05:10 PM by joeyjojo

Well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. Campion and vindicator only of her own. -John Quincy Adams on US imperialism
 14 wanderlustwarrior, Thu, 19th May '11 9:36:29 PM from Black Attack Squadron HQ Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Lord British Role Model All-Pope Leo I, HNIC
Once I was looking up CIA Factbook info for the world's population. At the time, The world's population was almost exactly 50/50, except for the (5 million, or 5 hundred thousand, I can't remember) extra men in China.
Any idiot knows Freud was a Star Trek fan and Star Wars invented The Hero, right?
 15 Mark Von Lewis, Thu, 19th May '11 9:39:06 PM from Somewhere in Time Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
KCCO
Goddamn Chinese, they are ruining the ratio! The godless bastards.
Val-halla at your boy, yo.
 16 wanderlustwarrior, Thu, 19th May '11 9:46:01 PM from Black Attack Squadron HQ Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Lord British Role Model All-Pope Leo I, HNIC
Be careful not to negatively stereotype a country's population.

All them extra Chineses know Kung-Fu.

whoa.
Any idiot knows Freud was a Star Trek fan and Star Wars invented The Hero, right?
So, you'll eventually end up with millons and millions of young Chinese males who have no chance to marry.

or the creation of glorious man-harems
 
 18 fanty, Thu, 19th May '11 11:11:10 PM from ANGRYTOWN
Woefully Ineloquent
or the creation of glorious man-harems
This is an absolutely awesome idea. I totally volunteer to fix the problem by getting myself several Chinese husbands. Or Indian husbands.

edited 19th May '11 11:12:06 PM by fanty

Individual liberation is an illusion.
Orbs
Polygamy, but with multiple husbands.
"That said, as I've mentioned before, apart from the helmet, he's not exactly bad looking, if a bit...blood-drenched." - juancarlos
Chinese Gov should start subsidizing anime, Visual Novel, Internet and D&D. when 20% of male start thinking " real girl = not that interesting". Problem Solved.

Lover of masks.
This is kinda weird... So many old man balls in 50 years... So many...
Please.
 22 joeyjojo, Thu, 19th May '11 11:54:01 PM from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Happy thanksgiving!
I really didn't need that image.
Well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. Campion and vindicator only of her own. -John Quincy Adams on US imperialism
Lover of masks.
Look how they dangle out of their shorts at the beach. In 50 years.

GLORY!!

edited 19th May '11 11:58:48 PM by TheDeadMansLife

Please.
 24 feotakahari, Fri, 20th May '11 12:49:55 AM from Looking out at the city
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
The guanggun remind me of the Lost Boys.
That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
Well, that's it. I'm never sleeping again.
 
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