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#1: Apr 29th 2011 at 12:53:20 PM

Every time I get on Steam, I notice that the latest news and latest games being sold are all dark, gritty, and T or M rated. Seriously, from Darkspore (oh look, it has "dark" in its name!) to... well, everything (I'm at work and don't have Steam in front of me), it's 90-95% darkness.

I'm tired of this belief that video games must be dark to appeal to players. Frankly, I like New Super Mario Bros Wii and am looking forward to Kid Icarus Uprising, and love Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep, and really want to see something similar to those on the PC and promoted on Steam. I'm tired of the damn darkness.

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#2: Apr 29th 2011 at 12:54:00 PM

Darkness darkness DARKNESS!!

I'm tired of the damn darkness.

Kingdom Hearts

edited 29th Apr '11 12:54:20 PM by Electivirus

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deuxhero Micromastophile from FL-24 Since: Jan, 2001
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#3: Apr 29th 2011 at 12:55:43 PM

We had Recettear recently, and last I heard CF is working on translation for the prequel thingy.

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#4: Apr 29th 2011 at 12:56:06 PM

^^ Are you implying that Kingdom Hearts is all that dark? The game with Donald and Goofy teaming up with a protagonist who wields a giant shiny key?

edited 29th Apr '11 12:56:24 PM by Signed

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#5: Apr 29th 2011 at 12:58:25 PM

It was a wordplay joke. Kingdom Hearts tends to use the word "darkness". A lot. A whooooole lot.

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#6: Apr 29th 2011 at 1:08:18 PM

More than 'heart'?

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#7: Apr 29th 2011 at 1:09:26 PM

I'm...not sure...

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#8: Apr 29th 2011 at 1:10:50 PM

Heart is definitely used more.

To the point where it doesn't even feel like a word, and has completely overtaken the "beating organ" definition.

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#9: Apr 29th 2011 at 1:17:01 PM

That's because children don't usually own high-end P Cs, so there are no ridiculously bright and cheery Mario/Kirby-esque romps through candyland to balance out the Fallouts and Amnesia: The Dark Descents. And despite your one and only example I can't say I see a pattern of dark and gritty games on PC any more than on consoles.

While I wouldn't mind getting something like Super Mario Galaxy on my desktop (if only for future mods to extend its longevity) please, for the love of god keep Kingdom Hearts away from the PC.

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#10: Apr 29th 2011 at 1:19:47 PM

That's interesting. Why do you juxtapose the T rating and darkness in games? Because T-rated games hardly tend to be dark.

^ You make it sound like you'll consider the PC Ruined Forever if Kingdom Hearts was ever to get released for it (not that there's any reason for that to happen). Please prove me wrong.

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#11: Apr 29th 2011 at 1:20:42 PM

I looked at Darkspore and its art style seems to actually rather cartoony. The gameplay looks like a Diablo-clone, no idea what its plot is like though.

I think this is just you judging books by their covers.

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#12: Apr 29th 2011 at 1:28:20 PM

PC gaming is already ruined forever by DRM and the fact that all we get these days are console ports. I just don't want to be reminded that Kingdom Hearts exists in my impenetrably western PC fortress where Square-Enix dares not tread.

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#13: Apr 29th 2011 at 1:49:08 PM

^^The plot is basically Spore with much more focus on combat with the Grox-equivalent.

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#14: Apr 29th 2011 at 1:59:37 PM

Riku's quest in a nutshell

Just try counting how many times the word darkness is said in this video.

edited 29th Apr '11 2:58:00 PM by burninganimefan357

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#15: Apr 29th 2011 at 2:00:23 PM

^^ Square-Enix makes PC games too. Besides publishing some games from Western studios, they also released one of their Final Fantasy games (forget which one) on Steam.

But yeah, most of the games promoted tend to be war games (be they FPS or strategy), and stuff like that. And the artwork shown off usually is pretty dark. If nothing else, I'm annoyed by the cover.

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#16: Apr 29th 2011 at 2:09:09 PM

^^ Square-Enix makes PC games too. Besides publishing some games from Western studios, they also released one of their Final Fantasy games (forget which one) on Steam.
That was XI, and only because it's an MMO. The only non-MM Os they've released for PC since becoming Square-Enix are Last Remnant and Front Mission Evolved (for whatever reason) and their publishing catalog consists of what Eidos was already publishing and nothing else (and quite frankly, Eidos was doing a much better job at it until they were acquired by S-E).

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#17: Apr 29th 2011 at 2:09:55 PM

^^^ Just type [[ youtube:text ]] with no spaces, and replace "text" with the portion of the URL at the end, behind the equals sign. In your case it's Mzx Q61b-gOo.

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edited 29th Apr '11 2:14:52 PM by Spirit

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#18: Apr 29th 2011 at 2:10:17 PM

I find your annoyance to be interesting, considering you like Silent Hill. Now I have yet to play a Silent Hill game, but I did hear from friends that it's some of the most disturbing shit they've ever played.

As Mammalsauce has mentioned, consoles have just as many dark games as the PC - in fact, Gears is famous for being oh so GRIMDARK yet is console-exclusive. So I don't see why your finger is pointed specifically at Steam. If you were complaining about the trend in games in general, I'd understand you better. Even though you still like Silent Hill.

^^^^ I DUNNO BURNING LOL Please click on "Show Markup Help" on the add/edit post page. Oh forget it, someone has already taken the courtesy to break the discussion and point it out.

edited 29th Apr '11 2:15:05 PM by Litis

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#19: Apr 29th 2011 at 2:13:18 PM

[up][up][up][up] Final Fantasy VII and Final Fantasy VIII were released on the PC. Though I hear both were cases of Porting Disaster.

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#20: Apr 29th 2011 at 2:36:10 PM

In FF 7's case, maybe at the time it might have been unoptimized or buggy (it does require a patch to run on ant form of windows XP or higher) but at this point it's preferable to the PSX version (unless it's emulated with a bunch of graphical enhancements).

The FF 8 port is bull dookey though. I would also like to emphasize the difference between Square (an excellent JRPG developer) and Square-Enix (the bloated megacorporate rotting corpse that drove off Sakaguchi and Matsuno).

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#21: Apr 29th 2011 at 3:11:40 PM

I would also like to emphasize the difference between Square (an excellent JRPG developer) and Square-Enix (the bloated megacorporate rotting corpse that drove off Sakaguchi and Matsuno).

-sigh-

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#22: Apr 29th 2011 at 3:12:58 PM

So yeah, everything's dark eh?

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#23: Apr 29th 2011 at 3:14:45 PM

I would also like to emphasize the difference between Square (an excellent JRPG developer) and Square-Enix (the bloated megacorporate rotting corpse that drove off Sakaguchi and Matsuno).

T_T

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#24: Apr 29th 2011 at 3:27:47 PM

Not to start a flame war, but you do realize the reason Sakaguchi left Square was largely his own fault.

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Mammalsauce Since: Mar, 2010
#25: Apr 29th 2011 at 3:42:34 PM

Not to start a flame war, but you do realize the reason Sakaguchi left Square was largely his own fault.
True, and I should have acknowledged that. Whatever the causes or symptoms, S-E has done very little right.


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