General Star Wars Animated Series

I’ve mostly been watching Star Wars: Young Jedi Adventures.

Considering how close this is to the events of Revenge of the Sith, I wonder if from Vader's perspective Project Necromancer has the potential to resurrect Padme.

Actually Sheev could appease Vader for a time with his quest for the World Between Worlds on the same grounds too.

Does Vader even know about Project Necromancer? Palpatine seems to be playing this one really close to his chest.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Feb 23rd 2024 at 2:08:48 AM

I really don't see Necromancer being of much help to someone who is already dead, despite the name. It seems like Palpatine is in the market for a new body and the means to put his consciousness into it. On the other hand he does use something to come back from the dead in Rise of Skywalker, because in that "Somehow Palpatine returned."

Retroactively explaining "Somehow Palpatine returned" seems like the obvious purpose of Necromancer, yes.

Especially since we know they're still working on it as of The Mandalorian, post-ROTJ. It was mentioned briefly in a meeting of Imperial Bigwigs Discussing Evil Plans.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Feb 23rd 2024 at 2:26:50 AM

Wait so is project necromancer supposed to be Palpatine trying to pull a Xehanort and possess Anakin?

Hey, if Palpatine did take over Anakin's body pre-Mustafar, then I could totally see why he would have kids and grandkids by the time of Rise of Skywalker.

No, because they're still working on Project Necromancer after Palpatine and Vader die. This episode marks the first chronological mention of it but the second canonical mention.

In The Mandalorian, which takes place post-Return of the Jedi, a bunch of Imperial leaders have a meeting to discuss their crisis of leadership and where they should go from here. With the main options being:

1. Gideon, the villain of the show, wants to keep going with his evil Gideon plans.
2. One guy wants to hold out for Thrawn to return from wherever he vanished to, setting up the big Thrawn event that's still upcoming.
3. Or we can keep working on Project Necromancer.

It's pretty clear from context that Necromancer is the official name for the cloning project to create new bodies for Palpatine. The same project that will ultimately give us Snoke and, further down the line, Somehow Palpatine Returned.

With that context in mind, it makes a lot of sense that Necromancer is basically an evolution of the original Clone Army project but with a narrow focus on manufacturing clones that can sustain an infusion of midichlorians.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Feb 23rd 2024 at 9:26:53 AM

My intuition is that the Empire thinks that they're making Palpatine clones so that the Empire can fake him being alive in the event of hia death, but Palpatine is trying to make a vessel he can transfer his consciousness into in the event of his death.

Something goes wrong after the events of the Mandalorian and the Sith Eternal end up with project Necromancer rather than the imperials who continued it, so when they do make a semi viable Sheev clone he ends up stuck with the eternal rather than with Snoke and the first order.

The comics show that Palpatine kept basically everything connected to Exogol and TROS a secret from Vader until the time between Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi.

Necromancer in particular I figure even Vader never found out about, as if he did I imagine Ghost Anakin would’ve warned somebody even if he was busy being a force psychopomp.

What does the comic say about Exogol? It's weird to me that Palpatine knew of it in the imperial era, but no one in the First Order did thirty years later; how did that information get lost?

The Empire didn’t have that information. Only Palpatine and his secret cabal. He was initially intending it as a work in progress: some extreme overkill he would eventually unveil ensure even those not cowed by the Second Death Star would fall in line, but then the 2nd Death Star went so badly that it ended up the only thing he had for thirty years.

In the comics, in response to Vader blatantly plotting against him in ESB, he brings Vader to Exegol, shows him the Magitek they’re developing that would eventually become the basis of the OP Star Destroyer fleet in TROS. The. He tortures him for good measure.

The experience cows Vader into submission, which is why he goes from “we can overthrow him” in ESB to “I must obey my master” in ROTJ.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Feb 24th 2024 at 12:32:09 PM

What was Palp's secret cabal made up of?

Edited by Whowho on Feb 24th 2024 at 12:07:00 PM

Same guys from ROS. Acording to side materials, good deal of membership is also compromised of influntal bussines people across the galaxy who financed his projects in secret.

So going back to Hemlock being based on Childress. Do you think well get a simialor arms dealer type thing with Hemlock

I think we've probably gotten everything we're going to get out of Hemlock. This is the last season and I don't expect him to leave the show alive.

They need someone to throw to the Bad Batch as a big series-finale climactic takedown, and Hemlock seems like the guy.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Feb 24th 2024 at 12:18:36 PM

Honestly I imagine Hemlock as person who is more into bioweapons like that Gas he created and monsters like Zillo beast and totally not Drengir. I kinda have this idea he just want to make weapons of Mass murder, but it stuck working on Palpatine’s Vanity project and sees it as way to get all resources and position he needs for his true passion.

I'm a little wary about the line about Hemlock having the "full might of the Empire" on his side, since that makes it sound like they're going to move him more to being your average Imperial Officer villain sending waves and waves of ships and stormtroopers against our plucky heroes and so on.

What's really made Hemlock stand out as a villain is what he's like over the operating table, so to speak - his experiments, his scientific madness, the way he is able to manipulate even our heroes under his control, etc - so I hope we don't lose that.

So new episode, new thoughts.

Seeing Omega dominate in gambling was something I never thought I needed.

On more serious note, I like more Omaga and Crosshair working together, plus Batcher. Im both happy and kinda sad we how quickly we got her reunion with Hunter and Wrecker. Liked now Imperial villain we got this episode, gambler who uses his position to cheat when he loses is hillarious quirk I am suprised we don’t see more of.

And now we have the awkward reunion of Crosshairs and the remaining members of the batch. It'll be interesting to see how this goes. I suspect Crosshairs has no intention to rejoin them since he knows he shit the pot on that front already (and they might blame him for Tech's death since it was his warning that ironically lead to that) but I have no idea where we'll go from here.

I liked the Villain of the Week of this one. I love it when these imperial officer villains are intelligent enough to actually match wits with the heroes, and it's rare to see it from a oneshot villain especially. I almost wish he hadn't been killed off - he would've made a fun antagonist for another story set on this planet - like, say a story in an outlaws or smugglers series where Han Solo or Lando or someone similar blows into town and had to outwit him.

Also, it made me me notice how rare overweight Imperial or Rebel characters are.

I agree that after their last episode had them heading to the system Omega was in, there should've been at least one more episode of Hunter and Wrecker looking for her, maybe being turned away right at the cusp of finding her and almost giving up, and then getting her signal.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Feb 28th 2024 at 9:09:17 AM

Crosshair is absolutely my favourite part of this show so I'm really looking forward to next week.

Came across a video talking about the story of "Darth Plagueis the Wise," and something odd was mentioned. When would you think that story took place? I'd say it must have been a bit prior to Sidious beginning his training of Maul, since I'd assume one of the first things he'd do is start training an apprentice. Rule of Two and all. Well, according to the wiki, and apparently canon sources, Darth Plagius was killed the day Palpatine became Chancellor. As in, AFTER the events of ''Phantom Menace." I guess the Rule of Two didn't mean anything to Sidious if he had an apprentice while himself an apprentice. And it looks like the Clone Army plot was an idea of Plagueis that Sidious just kept going. Really, Plagueis being around that late feels like it introduces a whole bunch of new plot inconsistencies.

Edit: Okay, so the stuff I mentioned may have been strictly in the Legends timeline, mostly coming from the book Darth Plagueis, whihc goe sinto great detail about how Plagius was still relevant until The Phantom Menace. The new canon is way more vague about this, and that's definitely for the better.

Edited by WillKeaton on Mar 3rd 2024 at 2:39:31 AM

You know, no matter how many times I see it happen, somebody being devoured off-screen never stops horrifying. RIP that guy.

They really need to teach "don't back up against dangerous animal cages" in Villain 101.