General Star Wars Animated Series

If you want to give Starkiller a chance, try reading the novelizations of Star Wars Unleashed and its sequel. I haven't read them personally, but they were apparently decently reviewed, well-received, and very successful; the author (Sean Williams) I do know to be very good. I hear the books do good things with both plot and character.

edited 7th Apr '15 3:29:27 PM by illegalcheese

I haven't read the second one, but I can't imagine why would the snorefest first one get positive reviews...All it did, was highlighting how bland Starkiller is.

It actually gave him some characterization, for one thing.

Something I've wondered about with Order 66 after I've watched it in Rot S - how exactly are the inhibitor chips activated when it's the clone commanders that get the order? For example, Cody gets the order from Sidious, and then orders the troops running an AT-TE to gun him down. Cody has the order to kill Obi-Wan, but how do the other clones know to follow Order 66 without question? Does the message get passed on via radio or something, or do the clones just follow their commander's orders to kill a Jedi out of nowhere without question? Maybe it is heard in some way, since Cody just says "blast him" with no specifics. I'm not sure if I'm overthinking this or if this is actually a legitimate headscratcher, but I'm kind of confused.

The message we see might be for our benefit. It's entirely possible that the holoprojectors in the commanders' suits are equipped with special emitters that flip the inhibitors on. The commander gets the message, everyone gets activated, and the commander gives the order out of habit. Or maybe those inhibitors just make the other clones obey any and every command from their commander no matter what it is.

There might also be a bit of narrative compression at hand. It's much more poignant to show a montage of the clones executing the Jedi, than showing all the details leading up to it. There was likely a ton of logistics stuff that was left out for the sake of the narrative, like the clone commanders simply telling their subordinates, "Execute Order 66," countless times to spread the message.

It was probably something along the line of 'Execute Order 66: blast him down.' But that leads to the question if anyone saying 'Execute Order 66' would activate it, or merely Sidious and other clones saying it.

In Legends at least, it was rooted in the chain of command: it was a contingency order that would allow the Chancellor to remove the Jedi from command if necessary, not just a 'murder all Jedi' button. From Wookieepedia:

edited 9th Apr '15 7:01:50 AM by Renewal

So the chip would only work if someone the clone recognized as Supreme Chancellor would order it and said order was verified, or if a chip was malfunctioning.

Honestly, I'm waiting until Kanan #2 to see exactly how Order 66 works, because it's not like the clones could say 'Hey, Order 66, did it come from the Chancellor? Let's look at the seal!' before shooting the Jedi down.

In Legends, there was also an Order 65: Take down a Supreme Chancellor who's gone rogue and power-hungry and so on.

Presumably, this was for if somebody else other than Palpatine was given the post of Supreme Chancellor and all the extra powers that come with it.

But... how would that be activated?

The Orders were probably always keyed to Palpatine, not the Chancellor. The idea was always for Palps to BE Chancellor, but pre-Emperor Palpatine doesn't seem the sort to leave that to chance.

Echo arc to be shown at the Celebration.

Question is: Will it be set before or after Fives' arc?

edited 9th Apr '15 9:18:45 PM by TheAirman

Since aside from Palpatine, only Dooku and the Kaminoans knew about the chip's true purpose, there wasn't really any need for verification. As for how the Order was spread, I'll have to go agree with Renewal, in that, the way it was shown to us was for narrative purposes, and in-universe the Order was probably broadcasted to every individual clone.

edited 9th Apr '15 11:34:34 PM by Werebazs

Yeah, I completely understand that for the sake of narrative flow they had them go with it. Also having a way of broadcasting the message from the commander or some sort of signal in their armour or helmets transmitted that activate the chips would make sense, as has been suggested. The narrative purpose is fine (as is it being a Manchurian Candidate situation as opposed to a mere order to be obeyed, since Sam Witwer said in a Rot S commentary they seem to instantly recognise Sidious, not to mention the fact that it being a mere order would conflict with how close they are to the Jedi, as well as their individualism).

It's going to be after - I believe the episode's writer, Brent Friedman, said that it was intended to be the Season 7 premiere, plus if you look at production codes there isn't really any room to fit it since they've been almost entirely in chronological order since the second half of the third season.

As for what I think about the news, I'm pretty excited, though I hope fans will have some way of seeing it after Celebration (and both Brent and head writer Matt Michnovetz are curious about the possibility). I will say that I initially would've preferred Echo to have stayed dead, but I know that there's fans who didn't like his death (not just in a Tear Jerker way, but also in the sense that they thought it was lame and too reckless for his character), so it could redeem that for them. I guess we'll see what they will do with him, though in terms of story purposes it would be fitting if they killed him off for real given that this is DOMINO Squad (and if it happens they better show him actually dying, as opposed to an explosion and a helmet, which I think had fans speculating even back then). Echo's return aside, I hope this gives us further insight to where Rex's story will ultimately go, given that he's probably the biggest unresolved fate in the show. Also here's hoping that Fives will get mentioned given that Echo is back, and maybe we could even get some further insight into what Rex thought of the events surrounding his death and revealing Order 66, given he seemed to care more about what he was saying than Anakin, but that's just me being hopeful. XD

It would be pretty pointless to bring him back only to kill him in the same arc.

I hope those episodes go up on Star Wars.com, like the story reels!

I'm just glad that their is one Domino still standing. While I found the ARC of the squad to be one of the most tragic in the entire show, and a great demonstration of the brutality of war,and the horrifying life the clones lead, I always hoped that at least one would make it to the end,I'm soft like that.

I'm just curious to see how the other 501st clones react to Echo's... changes.

New Dave Filoni interview discussing what's ahead:

http://nerdist.com/star-wars-rebels-executive-producer-dave-filoni-discusses-season-1-and-whats-ahead/

So, Ahsoka the Grey?

Pretty much. Though she gives off a very standard Jedi vibe, she was just separated from the order itself.

She'll probably be a lot more fluid and not follow all the traditional Jedi teachings, and may have some interesting views.

So I was rewatching the Umbara arc and I noticed something. Or rather, two somethings:

• 1. Tup stunned Krell with a headshot.
• 2. Tup was the one who proposed killing Krell.

Because Umbara wasn't dark enough already.

...okay then. If you haven't added that to Harsher in Hindsight, someone better do so. I always assumed what caused his chip to decay was what happened when he apparently went missing just before The Unknown, but this is either really sneaky foreshadowing or an amazing coincidence.

On that note, I've seen people debate about Obi-Wan's actions about when he went undercover and whether it was too extreme for him or not, but I just realised that him deliberately deceiving Anakin because he was doing something for what he believed to be the greater good kind of foreshadows the way he lied to Luke in the Original Trilogy, since he also did that because he thought it was the best thing for the future.

edited 11th Apr '15 9:11:25 PM by Tyrannotitan