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revolverzanbolt Since: Oct, 2010
#1: Mar 25th 2011 at 10:57:22 AM

Since the image is purely directed towards the fact that Hades is portrayed badly in Disney's Hercules, and that was spun-off into it's own trope, this image seems redundant now. Also, the quote the image picker chose for Everybody Hates Hades, presumably to avoid an exact duplicate, is entirely meaningless outside of the context of the film. Everybody Hates Hades' image is also bordering on Just A Face And A Caption, but I'm willing to be lieniant on it because he's practically the trope namer. However if anybody has some suggestions for that as well, feel free to mention it.

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#2: Mar 25th 2011 at 12:07:41 PM

I disagree. It works better on Hijacked by Jesus because he looks demonic, while the original Hades did not. Ideally, the image should have an image of a classical Hades to compare him with (Something like this).

Everybody Hates Hades is about how Gods of/related to Death are always shown as evil. There's nothing in that image showing that Hades is related to death. It only shows evil.

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#3: Mar 25th 2011 at 12:12:53 PM

I think Everyone Hates Hades should keep that while Hijacked by Jesus is a far broader trope. Maybe a picture of Aang's "Cross tattoo." from The Last Airbender.

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revolverzanbolt Since: Oct, 2010
#4: Apr 3rd 2011 at 5:15:32 AM

Hijacked by Jesus is supposed to be about how mythological characters are altered from their original roles to be more in line with the Christian relationship. Nothing in the current picture suggests him as an allegory for Satan, it just shows him as generically evil. Everyone knows Hades is a god of death, he's the trope namer for Everybody Hates Hades. The comparison is a good idea though.

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#5: Apr 3rd 2011 at 5:18:10 AM

Rhyme Beat, this what you're talking about?

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I haven't seen the movie or the TV Series, but this looks pretty good to me. I can't find any other pictures that make the context clearer though, which is unfortunate.

edited 9th Apr '11 10:35:41 AM by revolverzanbolt

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#7: Apr 7th 2011 at 11:23:03 PM

Okay, that should work now. On a second look, I think this would work well, and there doesn't look like any alternative apart from the current picture.

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#8: Apr 7th 2011 at 11:24:56 PM

For comparison I say we show an image if Aang Meditating or something that clearly represents the show's Asian Asthetic.

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#9: Apr 7th 2011 at 11:40:40 PM

[[http://i52.tinypic.com/rmisjo.png]]=>[1]

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#10: Apr 7th 2011 at 11:46:45 PM

Cerberus looks cute on Hades' shield tongue

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#11: Apr 7th 2011 at 11:49:54 PM

Deboss. Please fix the formatting on the first image.

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#12: Apr 8th 2011 at 8:55:50 AM

The Hades image is arguably Just A Face And A Caption. He's an example of the trope, but all the picture shows is his demonic presentation as in Disney's Hercules. is that enough to visually convey the trope?

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#14: Apr 8th 2011 at 1:19:29 PM

What? I was posting a demonstration, they're the same image.

edited 8th Apr '11 1:19:48 PM by Deboss

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#16: Apr 9th 2011 at 10:39:54 AM

Okay, how about something like this?

[1] [2] Text: Top: A Buddhist Monk Bottom: ...Jesus?

edited 9th Apr '11 10:41:38 AM by revolverzanbolt

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#18: Apr 9th 2011 at 2:16:26 PM

I'd use the live action Aang for consistency's sake.

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#19: Apr 9th 2011 at 4:16:59 PM

Yeah, when I first looked at those images I had no idea they were supposed to be the same character, or even from the same franchise.

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#20: Apr 9th 2011 at 6:51:28 PM

This, perhaps, with the aforementioned caption?

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#22: Apr 9th 2011 at 8:04:19 PM

I think images from Disney's Hercules could work, if we had a good arrangement of them. Along the lines of a "Greek Mythology + The Bible = Disney's Hercules"

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#23: Apr 12th 2011 at 6:09:01 AM

Disney's Hercules is definitely an example of Hijacked by Jesus, but since it's also the number one candidate for Everybody Hates Hades, it seems like it'd be redundant to have it on both, especially since how closely related the tropes are.

Also, I chose to compare the Cartoon version of Avatar with the Live-Action version because this is an adaptational trope, and it doesn't really make sense to claim the movie version forced itself into a Christian mold. I figured links to the relative work pages would have made it clear that they were the same character from to different mediums.

edited 12th Apr '11 6:11:40 AM by revolverzanbolt

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#24: Apr 12th 2011 at 6:21:34 AM

[up] I haven't seen either the cartoon or film of TLA, so I don't know if cartoon!Aang's head marking goes down his back, but film!Aang's head tattoos are a distinct enough difference from the animated version that I think the consistency in the depiction needs to be there. That being said, I do see your point.

edited 12th Apr '11 6:24:06 AM by Willbyr

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#25: Apr 12th 2011 at 7:35:22 AM

Perhaps a back shot of Aang next to the cross tatoos of Ong.

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